ShootingWorld.com

Welcome to the ShootingWorld Rifle Forum!
It is currently Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:11 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 48 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: .270 vs .30-06 vs .308
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:11 pm 
Offline
.223 cal
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:38 pm
Posts: 119
Location: Denver, CO
What are the advantages/disadvantages of each one of these cartridges?
im assuming shooting distances between 150-300 yds average and med sized game.
thanks


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: re: .270 vs .30-06 vs .308
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:04 pm 
Offline
.308 cal

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:39 am
Posts: 681
Location: MO
Pretty similar to another one of your other threads, but I'll go ahead and put in my humble opinion anyway.

If you get one of those cartridges, you'll never need the other two. They all do roughly the same kinda stuff, for the most part. Between the .308 and the .30-06, it's mostly a matter of what weight bullet you want to use. Above 165 grains, the -06 has a definate advantage, due to the longer neck and the larger case. Below 165 grains, the .308 actually puts up slightly better numbers. The .308 will kick less, too. The .270 is basically just the -06 necked down a bit. Higher velocities with a smaller bullet. My brother-in-law swears by the .270, I prefer the .30 options.

All 3 are "all-around" cartridges, and pretty much comes down to a Chevy vs Dodge vs Ford kinda debate. The animal will be too dead to notice any difference in them.

_________________
Finish your beer.... there are sober kids in Africa.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: re: .270 vs .30-06 vs .308
PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:58 am 
Offline
Moderator

Joined: Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:25 am
Posts: 1287
Location: SW VA
What he said! Ones about as good as the other.

If you were the owner ,of one of them, you'd swear its the best.But it still comes down to the Ford VS Chevy/Dodge thing as long a you stick to like size bullet weights. The 06 gets the nod for using the most range of bullet weights though. Anywhere from 110 gr HPs up to 220 gr stuff.

HWD


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: re: .270 vs .30-06 vs .308
PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:46 am 
Offline
.308 cal

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:39 am
Posts: 681
Location: MO
The -06 will work fine with the lighter bullets (165 on down), but the .308 will still put up better numbers. It doesn't go as well the other way, though. The .308 can't really handle bullets over 180 grains, because the case is too small and the neck is too short. So in that regard, the -06 has a little bit of an edge if you plan on hunting larger game. You can load big, or you can load big, medium, or small. With the .308, you can only load medium and small. That's about the only thing to consider between the two ballistically.

One other thing to note is that the .308 is a short action cartridge, and the .270 and .30-06 are long action. The rifles will be noticeably different when you cycle the action, and the short action rifles can be a bit lighter.

_________________
Finish your beer.... there are sober kids in Africa.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: re: .270 vs .30-06 vs .308
PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:07 pm 
Offline
.308 cal
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:58 pm
Posts: 376
Location: n.e. georgia
the .30-06 is the best hands down. (my opinion) a hundred years of use have to mean something. you can use it on game from praire dogs to grizzley bear. (saboted .22cal bullets up to 220gr)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: re: .270 vs .30-06 vs .308
PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:35 pm 
Offline
.50 Caliber

Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:05 am
Posts: 1427
Ditto what everyone else said. My two cents worth is to pick the cartridge that ammo is easiest for you to find with expense being a secondary concern. I don't know much about Peru but in some places of the world one or the other is harder to find. Believe it or not, 30/06 and 308 is not legal in some countries as they ban the civilian possession and use of cartridges that are or have been military chamberings. That would make the 270 your only choice and something to consider if foreign travel is a possibility.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: re: .270 vs .30-06 vs .308
PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:39 pm 
Offline
.223 cal
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:38 pm
Posts: 119
Location: Denver, CO
Thanks for the input. I realize it was pretty similar to another thread I posted... though knowing pretty much about shotguns I am a rifle newby-wannabe (not even a newby yet :oops: ) though game here is not that big, pretty much white tails or taruka (kind of a big high mountain whitetail) and then smaller game ideal for a .22 caliber gun, the ammo they bring here is mainly .30-06 .270 or .308. the .308 is allowed although it is a military used round. No problem there, and probably that will be the easiest round ill be able to hunt.

The interesting thing is the long-action short action stuff. Hunts for deer here take long walks in the mountains since we dont hunt in wooded areas but kind of desertly highland mountains (above 13000 ft usually).Shots are taken from 0 m up to 250-300m mainly.

We are not allowed to reload and I will need to shoot whatever is in the market, mainly Remington, Winchester, Sellier-Bellot. I am not small framed and I can take recoil, so thats not an issue.
I know I wont be dissapointed with any of the cartridges mentioned, but still I want to make the right-est choice.
thanks


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: re: .270 vs .30-06 vs .308
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:53 am 
Offline
.308 cal

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:39 am
Posts: 681
Location: MO
I suppose what it really boils down to is to find a rifle you like first, and then pick whichever of the 3 chamberings they have on hand at the time. It really is a tough choice between those 3 for a general purpose cartridge. Of course, you'd have a problem if you found the right rifle and they had it for all 3 cartridges :D . If all else fails, you can never go wrong with the old -06.

_________________
Finish your beer.... there are sober kids in Africa.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: re: .270 vs .30-06 vs .308
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:00 am 
Offline
.223 cal
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:38 pm
Posts: 119
Location: Denver, CO
Wired, I guess this can go on forever, as it sure has been... :lol: then there is the matter of the scope, 3-9x40 enough or something with more power such as 3.5-10x50mm? what kind of reticle, distance calculator,
have u seen the new Leupold Vari-XL with molded front objective so to lie low on the barrel... aaaah, I love this mental masturbation when it comes to guns


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: re: .270 vs .30-06 vs .308
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:41 pm 
Offline
.50 Caliber

Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 8:35 pm
Posts: 1137
Location: Griffin Ga.
Mental what :shock: ........ now thats a new one towards guns............Whitetails in Peru :?: ..............must be an import

_________________
8 points or better, let the little ones walk


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: re: .270 vs .30-06 vs .308
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:56 pm 
Offline
.223 cal
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:38 pm
Posts: 119
Location: Denver, CO
we do have whitetails (Odocoileus virginianus)... not an import though they are quite smaller usually not bigger than 60-70lbs.
they dont live in woods but in highland in the mountains.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: re: .270 vs .30-06 vs .308
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:07 pm 
Offline
.308 cal

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:39 am
Posts: 681
Location: MO
I would only get the 3-9X40 or bigger if you were hunting in wide open spaces where long shots are the norm. When you put big glass on a rifle, it will adversely affect the balance of the rifle and make it heavier, particularly with a lightweight rifle. If your range is the 100-300 yards that you mentioned, you don't need a huge scope. Something like a lightweight 3-7X33 would be quite sufficient, and you'd have it turned down to 3X or 4X almost all the time. Probably a fixed 4X would even do quite well. As for reticles, again, you don't need anything fancy. A plain ol' duplex is all anybody needs (thick towards the edges, skinny in the middle).

Simple is good for a hunting rifle. That way, you can think more about the hunt than you do your equipment. If you're gonna be popping praire dog type critters from 500+ yards away, you can get fancy. For shooting deer type critters at probably no more than 200 yards, stick with the K.I.S.S. principle.

I haven't been hunting as long as I would like, but after a few trips out into the woods with the wrong equipment (or like I've done, perfectly good equipment that's just wrong for the person using it), you learn a few things pretty quick.

_________________
Finish your beer.... there are sober kids in Africa.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: re: .270 vs .30-06 vs .308
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:00 pm 
Offline
.223 cal
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:38 pm
Posts: 119
Location: Denver, CO
Wired, whats the K.I.S.S. principle? I was assuming I wouldn't need a scope bigger than 50mm in any case. I once had a bushnell 3-9x32 duplex reticle. It had a super crisp image, never fogged and tolerated some beating. Had it on a 22LR, that I reckon is not hard kicking nor has a very long range.
I wont be spending all my bucks on the scope, just a decent reliable one that will do its part of the job... I just need to find a nice critter to aim it to hehehe


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: re: .270 vs .30-06 vs .308
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:35 pm 
Offline
.308 cal

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:39 am
Posts: 681
Location: MO
Keep
It
Simple,
Stupid

Pretty well-known acronym up here.

Finding a good scope in any given price range that's practical for the game you're hunting is the easy part. The part about finding a critter to aim it at gets a bit tough sometimes :lol: .

_________________
Finish your beer.... there are sober kids in Africa.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:32 pm 
Offline
.50 Caliber

Joined: Sun May 16, 2004 10:31 pm
Posts: 3679
Location: Helena,Montana
This is just my opinion and many will disagree,I feel like the larger objectives takes the balance out of a rifle for me.I own several older Leupolds with a 42mm objective and thats as big as I personaly want,I actually prefer the Leupold VXlll 2-8X36 and own a variXlll 1.75-6X32 that I love.40mm objectives work well with me also.I own 9 Leupolds and the biggest objective is the older 42mm,others are 40mm,32mm and 36mm.Look at them on a rifle to see if balance is a hinderence to you,if not try the new Leupold 50,I looked through one and it was super clear and may be what your looking for,but its not my thing.Let us know what you choose cause were drooling too,the next best thing to getting a gun is your buddy getting one,keep us up to date bud

_________________
Remember,every day above ground is a good day


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 48 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group