.270 limitations

Discussion in 'Rifle Talk' started by markIVbigblock, Jun 30, 2004.

  1. markIVbigblock

    markIVbigblock Super Member

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    I just bought a .270 for deer and prolly wont get to hunt much else w/ it for a few years because of college but I wanna know what other game the .270 is good for and what would be stretching the limits of the .270 also what size bullets would be best for each animal u mention? I dont handload yet Im not sure if thats a factor thanx for any help

    Aaron
     
  2. MarlandS

    MarlandS Well-Known Member

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    Well that is a tall order... the .270 is one of the more versatile rounds out there. It's used extensively here for coyote control , I know of guys who have used it for Prairie Dogs, it's taken it's share of western big game too.

    As far as loads, I'll leave that to the guys who do more with one than shoot at milk jugs way up across the holler with a friend's rifle.
     

  3. Anonymous

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    Jack O'Connor built the 270's reputation by taking U.S. game from pronghorns up to Alaskan moose, including interior grizzlies. He also used it world wide though I couldn't begin to list all the species taken. He believed in the 130 gr bullets of the time, the 150 gr ones didn't "kill well enough" for him. I feel Mr. O'Connor greatly pushed the limits of the 270, I personally would consider elk, black bear, and maybe the smaller subspecies of moose to be the upper limit on big game with premium bullets. uglydog
     
  4. Drop-Shot

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    As I have said before I've never met a 270 I didn't like,and I watched a great hunter take a 6x5 elk that had to be 600 lbs on the hoof or mabe a little bigger.We took pictures but the point is the 270 can take elk in the hands of a capable hunter,but why?There are so many larger calibers out there and we as hunters owe it to the animals we hunt to take them as quickly as possible,and not with extended pain and suffering.If I only had 1 rifle to hunt every thing,It would be the 30/06.The 270 shoots flatter but bigger bullets make exit holes and I never saw a 270 shoot through an elk.With good shot placement the lack of an exit didn't stop my buddy from stopping that 6x5 elk.These are my opinions and opinions are like elbows,we all have more than one and lean on them a bit too much at times.Drop-Shot
     
  5. Grouse Getter

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    I use a 7mm Rem. Mag. for most of my hunting and don't own a .270 but many of my friends use one. From what I have seen, the .270 is versatile and capable for use from varmints to larger game like elk, moose and black bear when good bullets are used with proper shot placement. Elk seem to be one of the tougher animals of the bunch and I feel a .338 caliber is a better choice than the .270 or even the 7mm Rem Mag for that matter, but the .270 is certainly up to the task if a person does not own anything larger. As with all other calibers, good bullets and shot placement is the key. :D
     
  6. Drop-Shot

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    Amen grousegetter,I am thinking of trying to shoot the mighty 338,luv2safari says the gun kills on both ends and says the 375 H&H is better.All I can say is we need to pick the caliber to the animal we hunt most.Drop-Shot
     
  7. Drop-Shot

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    Also guest,Jack O'conner had a back up just in case.He was one of the reasons varients of the 30/06 exsit today.I could not be a Jack O'Conner on my best day and I would bet most hunters could not either.This is not to say I don't like the 270 but in the hands of alot,(most)hunters its too light for any thing bigger than deer and antelope.If you hunt elk with a 270 I sure hope you are a great shot,alot of us would want to believe we are,but be honest.Some people shoot elk with a 243,actually that was a guide that hunted in the timber with open sites at close ranges.I won't,all I am say ing we owe it to the animal to kill as humanely as possible.Drop-Shot
     
  8. gwp4ever

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    The .270 was the first rifle I ever purchased. I killed my fair share of deer with it and 4 or 5 elk. Back when I first bought the gun there wasn't alot of different factory loads to choose from like there is now. I used 150 grain core loks for elk and the 130 for deer. I shot a 6X5 Roosevelt elk that neared 1000 pounds and it broke its shoulder all to hell and knocked him down, but he jumped back up and I finished him. I seems to have plenty of penetration and have seen it blow clean through good sized elk. Nowadays I use the 140 grain Winchester Fail Safe and am happy with it. I think its an ok caliber for elk at moderate ranges if you do your part. It's also plenty for black bear. It's no .338 but it works. :lol:
     
  9. Drop-Shot

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    gwp4ever,I respect your confidence in your abilitys and am always glad to talk about guns and hunting.You seem quite confident about 270 and mabe all the elk I saw shot all to heck was more a lack of proper shot placement than power.I've killed 4 mule deer with a 270 remington ,for some strange reason I traded for another rifle,a ruger 77 in 25/06.If I get a cow permit this year,I plan to take my 16th elk and it will probely be with a handgun as I can't even think of shooting my rifles.I wish you all the luck in the world and hope we will both have elk meat in the freezer by the end of the season.Drop-Shot
     
  10. Grendelrob

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    I would have to agree with what everyone here is saying. It can take anything from prairie dogs (although there may now be much left) using a 115 grain bullet up to deer using 130-140 grain bullet. It is possible to take larger game like elk and moose, but you have to be very confident in yourself and the gun. On a day-to-day basis, there are better caliber choices for bigger game. Just my 2 cents.

    Rob
     
  11. Anonymous

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    This is my 1st time posting and I have to agree with Drop shot and grendelrob. My 1st rifle was a .243 for eastern whitetail and such. I still have it and only use it as a back up in case I lone out my bigger cals. or run short on loaded ammo come deer season.
    I've never hunted elk, moose or griz., but if the chance came along one day then it sounds like a good excuse to buy a bigger whizzie bang poppin' stopper. My favorite hunting rifle is a .308 Ruger RSI....Now If i could get one of those babies in ,358 Win. .....well....
    I do own a .270 and it can handle 90% of all the hunting I'll ever need a cartrige to do.
     
  12. Drop-Shot

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    Hey guest log in and lets have fun.You mentioned the 358,my brother-in-law last year bought a BLR 358 and went on a buffalo hunt with it.I thought he was just being cheap by not putting a scope on it,but he had a rear apature site mounted on the rear of the reciever,and I looked through it and sure enough,I saw the rear sight and front site all through a little circle on the rear of the reciever.He shot the buffalo at 80 yards and put one round behind his ear and he dropped like thors hammer hit him.Now I want a BLR in 358.Drop-Shot
     
  13. sappyg

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    Drop Shot,
    I thought I had logged on. The post above was my 1st here so it'll take me a while to get up to speed I guess.
    I know what you mean about the appeture sight. I'm saving my pennies for one of those NEG Apps. for my #1 in 45-70. I think I'll need the front sight as well in order to raise the impact at 50 yds. Right now with my loads the factory sights are jacked up all the way in order to hit dead center at 50. I'd like to have it zeroed at more like 75 yds.
    Hey, this sounds like a good topic to get started :!:
     
  14. Drop-Shot

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    Hey sappydog do you reload for the 45/70?Drop-Shot
     
  15. Anonymous

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    Drop Shot,
    Yes I do reload for the 45-70. I have read most of your post concerning a recoil system.
    After the first sit down with the 45-70 I concluded that it could probably stop an M1 Abrams tank, (given proper shot placement of course).
    In order to enjoy the cartrige I went with a lighter load which is the reason that my sights are jacked up as high as they will go. I use 300- 400 gr. Lazer cast bullets ahead of 28 gr. of XMP 5744. The #'s suggest that this about equals the origional BP velocities though I have no way to varify this. It's a nice gentle load with a fun factor of 9.9. Try it sometime when you're tired of the abuse from those cannon ball Garretts. I don't think a mere bear can stop a 400 gr. lazer cast moving out at 1500-1600 fps. (arm chair theory), and brother that's a lot of ouch.
     
  16. Anonymous

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    Drop Shot,
    The above post is me ....sappy G...for some reason I can't get logged on :roll:
     
  17. sappyg

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    This is a test.....Testing testing 123
     
  18. chips

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    i use a .270 for hogs, and i like to stick with a smaller bullet with quicker expansion. i usually do with remington core-lokt 130 grain. if i was going to go for a deer i would swithch to a 150 grain bullet.
     
  19. Drop-Shot

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    Hey chips,you ever shot the 140 gr?I shot a muley at 150 yards uphill and you can't die any quicker.He folded up and fell where I shot him.I never tried the 150 gr,mabe if I did I wouldn't have traded it for a ruger 25/06.Drop-Shot
     
  20. Anonymous

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    if i remember correctly, iam pretty sure that the 270 was the first centerfire rifle cartridge i had ever shot, it was a model 70 270, it was my first centerfire rifle, my granny gave it to me, she killed 3 elk with it, i know they can be used for moose, id go with 150 grain cxp4 winchester super x powerpoints for that, elk, same thing, except cxp 3, and they can be used for bear, antelope, all deer, varmints, and smaller game, the smallest thing ive taken with mine was a turkey, i shot at a wild cat that was eating dog food out of the feeder, i didnt hit him, because i was trying to keep from laughing at the idiotic thing i was doing, but, one thing for sure, i scared the heck out of him, i was shinin the spotlight on him, and after i shot, i saw his eyes get about 4 feet in the air and he was headed for the old shed, but, my point is, the 270 is one of the most versatile cartridges there is if it isnt the most