6.5 X 55 Swedish mouser users

Discussion in 'Military Style' started by Aix Sponsa, Jul 31, 2004.

  1. Aix Sponsa

    Aix Sponsa Member

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    What’s the longest distance, and the biggest animal you’ve taken or would take with this cal?
    And what size bullet?

    Iv got deer, out to 250yds antelope at 200yds and many coyotes up to 200yds with it and my brother got an elk at 175yds. Had a chance for a bear last year at 70-85 yards and chickened out. He was the biggest blk bear Iv ever seen and didn’t want to piss him off and become diner.

    I use IMR 4831 at 43.7 grns my crony registers out at 2850 with Nosler 140 grn Partions. I average a ¼ in group at 200 with it I shoot at least once a week and reload my own ammo.

    So what do you all think? would have it done it?
     
  2. wwb

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    Okay, I've been known to stretch the truth a little.... usually concerning the size of the fish I've caught, or the size of the buck I shot last year (they grow faster after they're dead, you know).

    I saved a target I shot a few years ago with my .30-'06 -- a 5-shot cloverleaf at 100 yards, and I'm thinking of having it framed. I've never done it since, and very likely never will; but I can shoot 3/4" to 1" groups at 100 all day long.

    1/4" at 200 yards would be a one-hole group at 100 and would put you at the top of the heap in benchrest competition. Those guys don't shoot the 6.5 Swede though, 'cause it ain't accurate enough.

    It's very possible to shoot that or even a smaller group once in a lifetime, but to AVERAGE 1/4" at 200?
     

  3. Aix Sponsa

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    come on up and lets go shoot I have nothing to bull Sh*t about Maby if you got ride of the 30-06 crap you could do better

    As I said I shoot regularly and its obveiuse you dont. 6.5s are accurat with the rite work and the rite shooter
     
  4. wwb

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    From Outdoor Life, July 2004....

    The Benchrest Effect
    By Jim Carmichel

    How benchrest shooters have improved your rifle.

    July 2004

    There are only a few thousand of them at most. When they get together, a crowd of 60 to 80 is considered a major happening, and their biggest event of the year will be attended by only a few hundred. They call themselves “benchrest shooters,” and the object of their game is simple: firing 5 (sometimes 10) shots into a single round hole no larger than the diameter of the bullet. This may seem like a pointless enterprise, especially since after decades of trying no one has quite yet managed to do it, but along the way this small but intensely dedicated band of marksmen has changed the face of riflery.

    Note the statement... "after decades of trying no one has quite yet managed..." It's pretty clear that they've never heard of your marvelous shooting ability, since you can do it almost every time.

    Check the full article at

    http://www.outdoorlife.com/outdoor/shoo ... 69,00.html

    Sonny, if you want to try and B.S. somebody, you're gonna have to try and do it to folks who don't already know more than you do.
     
  5. markIVbigblock

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    guys before this turns into some big pissing match why doesnt someone ask him to provide a pic or scan of one of his 1/4" targets this sounds fair to me now on to my question what kind of game is the 6.5x55 good for and what other caliber would this be most comparable to?

    Aaron
     
  6. timbertoes

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  7. wwb

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    That's a heck of a group, but it's a lot bigger than 1/4 inch... and, like I said earlier, once in a while you just get lucky. You need to keep in mind that a slight breeze will push you well over an inch in 200 yards. That's why the benchrest shooters have wind flags all the way down the range and watch the wind before they squeeze it off. Also note what looks like the first group fired in the lower right corner - that's about 2", which is still a heck of a group at 200, and probably what this shooter (and he IS a shooter) does most of the time.

    Also note that it was shot with 100 gr bullets. Unless you have a custom-built barrel with a faster twist, the 140's won't be stable, and therefore not accurate, because they're so long. I shot a .264 Win Mag for quite a few years, and put enough rounds through it to where it needed to be rebarrelled, so I'm familiar with the 6.5 performance.

    In 140 grain loads, it has a very high sectional density and is a decent load for big animals, as long as you have a tough bullet. With 120's it's a good deer-sized round, and with 100's it's a good varmint round.

    The point is that if you AVERAGED 1/4 inch groups at 200 yards, you'd be next month's centerfold in the American Rifleman.
     
  8. MarlandS

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    If this turns into a big pissin' match one of two things will happen, it'll draw more viewers and posters or I'll get out the big eraser. It can be a pissin match and still be friendly so let's work in that direction.

    WWB, good to see you remembered to log in ;) :D
     
  9. wwb

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    Marland,

    At least we got some life here.... maybe we should go to Shotgun World and holler, "Hey, you guys... big fight over at Shooting World !!!" It could generate more traffic.

    It's 1:00 now, so I gotta get back to work. 2-1/2 years 'til I retire... is it too soon to start counting the days?
     
  10. timbertoes

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    Re: re: 6.5 X 55 Swedish mouser users


    your right, and the Sarge in his original thread on his Swede, commented greatly on how long it took him to finsd that load, and make the shots :)

    it is quite impressive.

    I would like a Husqvarna (non-mil) in 6.5 one day :)
     
  11. MarlandS

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    Re: re: 6.5 X 55 Swedish mouser users

    I don't know, I'm 41 and counting the days already.. Actually, my current employment agreement runs out late 2005 or early 2006 . I think I'm going to try freelancing ($2 word for part-timing it) for a year, I believe I can have the best of both worlds, a comparable income and more free time. The Wife is stroking out on that thought, but it's not uncommon for me to make $200 on a weekend, why can't I do that through the week?
     
  12. wwb

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    Wait a minute here..... I just realized Marland was poking fun at my poor memory with that "...remembered to log in...." business.

    It's not nice to make fun of old guys.... you'll be one yourself some day. You'll know it when you start telling people "The trouble with kids today...." or if you catch yourself saying "By golly, when I was your age...." On the plus side, you can be cranky when you're old, 'cause everybody expects it.

    I put my P.E. to use and did some independent Engineering consulting for a couple years... feast or famine is how it turned out. The problem with part-time work is that you have the time for fun stuff, but not the money. Full-time (or more) employment gives you the money to do fun stuff, but then there's no time. Solution: win the lottery and retire.

    If you ever think about a vacation to Wisconsin (that's where all the folks from Chicago go, you know) drop me an e-mail - - we've got trap, skeet, sporting clays, 5-stand, IPSC, Cowboy Action, and a couple ranges where you can install some holes in a piece of paper all within an hour of Manitowoc. Then you can take your boss (wife) up to Door County where they have all the tourist stuff, and she'll think you're a gem.
     
  13. MarlandS

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    WWB, gosh I'm hurt that you would think I'd poke fun at anyone especially a Cheif Elder Flatus (old Fart). Why without older folks us younger people wouldn't have a clue of what to look forward to . Like for example, driving for miles with our turn signal on, eating at Cracker Barrel every day, getting to purchase embarrassing ointments, comb-overs, telling about "back in my day" , endless pointless stories puntuated with impromptu naps, teeth in a jar, dusty farts, I'm sure I'm leaving something out :D

    The invite sounds great, wish I had such facilities to offer down this way then we both could be away from the Chicagoans...
     
  14. Aix Sponsa

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    my opoligies when I said a 1/4 " I was meaning between the holes

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    I dont have a scaner but I can get to one in a few days and Ill be glad to shut you up. this is a consistant patern. at two hundred. in a cinter group of three either way ansewer the questions if you would.
    I would like to see this get back on the original thread
     
  15. wwb

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    1/4 inch between the holes with a .26 caliber rifle makes it a 1/2 inch group.... that's twice as big as the 1/4" group you claimed, and just about the size of the group in the photo linked earlier in the thread. Now we're into realistic territory.
     
  16. timbertoes

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    Sarges gun:

    the Rifle is a 1930ish Carl Gustof M38 with a Husquvarna Military action

    center group measures .345
     
  17. Anonymous

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    Hello All.......I just can over from Dixie Slugs and Shotgun World to look around this page........but left my flak jacket over at Beartooth Bullets.
    Anyway......There is a special place in my heart for the Swedish Mauser with the 6.5X55mm cartridge. I have owned many over the years, the best being one of the first 96's that was made at the original Mauser factory before the Swedes got cranked up. All shot very good with the longer bullets.
    The Swedish action was made from better steel than that group of rifles. If the rag writers had not harped about cocking on closing, etc. there would have been even more custom guns made on the action.
    The fact that Amerian shooters have been pounded on the head about velocity, velocity, and more velocity......They would understand the concept of the long high Sectional Density bullet (140 gr up) that the 6.5's work on. All in all.....It's a great game cartridge!......James
     
  18. luv2safari

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    :roll: That was the most ludicrous claim I've ever heard. :!: :?

    You can't even get a ONE SHOT .25" group from a .264" bullet. :lol: :lol: :lol: Give me a break! :roll: :roll:

    Aside from all this, the 6.5 has killed a whole barge full of moose in Sweden, and will continue to do so. It is one of the world's great smaller bore calibers. :D

    luv2
     
  19. Lex Talio

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    Unless there is a new and accepted way of logging group size.....for all my 70 years a group was/is measured "center to center".
    Therefore one could have a .25" center to center group with a .264" bullet or even a .458" bullet...........James
     
  20. wwb

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    Re: re: 6.5 X 55 Swedish mouser users

    Now there are at least two of us that know how to measure a group.