Accubrake

Discussion in 'Rifle Talk' started by markIVbigblock, Jul 27, 2004.

  1. markIVbigblock

    markIVbigblock Super Member

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    does the accubrake really make a difference in felt recoil? im looking at a 340 wby mag and one has the accubrake and one can have one added for 150$ Im thinkin it may kick a bit much for me so will this help? thanx

    Aaron
     
  2. Drop-Shot

    Drop-Shot Super Member

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    There is good news and bad news about muzzel brakes.The good news is that they work,you'll be able to shoot a box of 340 ammo and still think,It does not knock the sense out of you.Hear is the bad news,you will make every one around you deaf with each shot.We shoot practice with ear plugs but hunt without them,I turned a man into a 1 eared man by shooting a mule deer buck about 7feet to my left was my friend.Today he has 20% hearing in his right ear.You hunt without plugs and it will hurt your ears to shoot.I have an 06 I want to rebarrel due to the recoil reducer.It don't kick much but It will deafen you.I hear some are worse than others but pick your poision,deaf or sore shoulder.Drop-Shot
     

  3. mountainview

    mountainview Super Member

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    The news may be worse. Even with hearing protection, a brake can damage your hearing. I was wearing muffs AND plugs (each was 30 NRR) when a Striker went off at the next bench. Because of the short muzzle, the brake was a lot further back than a rifle. Noise from the brake is not what inducted me into the tinnitus and recruitment club, it was the shock wave. One shot was all it took.
     
  4. gwp4ever

    gwp4ever Super Member

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    I won't really matter what you do or don't do, that .340 is still going to beat you down. :p
     
  5. markIVbigblock

    markIVbigblock Super Member

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    gwp thats 1/2 the fun isnt it? :D

    Aaron
     
  6. gwp4ever

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    you know it :D
     
  7. Drop-Shot

    Drop-Shot Super Member

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    I would bet a dollar ole gwp4ever has had a sore shoulder or two over the years.That is one good reason on hunting with a 270,gwp4ever hunts with one and at the end of the day the shoulder is not as bad as that 340.But it's like the man that kissed the cow,to each his own.Drop-Shot
     
  8. gwp4ever

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    I used to use the .270 for elk but for the last 10 years or so it's been a .338 mag so I've definitley had my share of sore shoulders :D . I love my .270 but the .338 has made a believer out of me as far as elk hunting goes.
     
  9. Drop-Shot

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    gwp4ever ,what size bullet do you shoot?How bad is the kick?I just brought home a 358 win,it's no 338 mag but it can bring home the bacon.I got a sweet deal on a used BLR and it was only shot 6 times,when I bought the rifle(had to leave it at the dealer for 30 days to pass a possible theft law that applies to all used guns in WA)they had the rest of the shells in a winchester 250 gr box,when I picked the gun up they could not find the rest of the shells but will save them for me.The gun came in the original box,in a plastic sack surrounded by styerfoam.It looks new,he left it in the closet for 10 years and traded it.I can't wait to scope it and try it out.They made a 338 bullet to fit the 308 case but I don't remmember the name of it.Drop-Shot
     
  10. gwp4ever

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    I like the 225 grain Nosler Partition for the .338 but the new Accubond has grabbed my attention. Is the necked down .338 you were talking about a .338-06?
     
  11. Drop-Shot

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    gwp4ever it's reversed,it's a necked up 30/06 for 338 bullets,but I have a book called pet loads by ken waters and he speaks of a 308 necked to 338,I'm sure you know the 358 is a 308 case necked up to 35 cal,but one of my friends back in montana lost a record setting bull with a 308 and went to town and bought a sako 338 mag.We went out to try to find the poor thing the next day.Plenty of sign but the bull was miles ahead and moving,so I hope he made it.The bears up there are thick and they will run him down if he could not stop the bleeding.The 338 may be over kill but my consience will make me feel better knowing if I do my job the 338 will do it's job.Quick kills is easier on my consience and better for the animals we hunt.Drop-Shot
     
  12. luvtohunt.com

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    I've got the Weatherby Accumark in 30-378. The accubrake really tames the recoil nicely, but I wear ear plus and muffs. Of course, I don't notice the noise when I shoot an elk though.
     
  13. Drop-Shot

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    lovetohunt that has to be the fastest 30 caliber ever.The accubrake projects the noise more to the front than does most other muzzel brakes.mine is a KDF recoil arrestor and it will deafen you and others around you.Some times when I have shot it while hunting my nose bleeds and I can't hear for about 2 minutes.I'm cutting mine off and recrown the muzzel and lap a 60 degree center spot so it's a little recessed.Enjoy that 30/378,it's a long reach out and touch some one round.Drop-Shot
     
  14. luvtohunt.com

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    Thanks DS! My muzzle blast isn't nearly what you described from yours. It makes the tin roof on our shooting range rattle pretty good, but I have never left bleeding.

    As far as the 30-378 goes, I am more than impressed with the gun. It is a .220 swift on steroids and just as accurate. :p
     
  15. billt

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    This is my .338-378 Weatherby Accumark with the Accubrake installed. It cuts recoil to that of an unbraked .300 Win. Mag. The Weatherby Accubrake works better than most muzzle brake designs. Yes, it's noisy, so are women. But both give pleasure as well! Bill T.
     
  16. Merton Leeper

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    I have a Trim Line Brake on my 338 Caliber Ruger Mark II. As you can see from my signature it has been pretty well worked over. It shoots like a 223 and I have heard from hunting friends that it just about makes them deaf and shoots a flame out the barrel about ten inches long. At the range, I wear big shooting ear muffs. In the field, I never hear the shot or feel the recoil, my total consciousness is on the animal and the placement of the shot. I shoot a Federal Premium Loads (210 grain Nosler Partition).

    Get the brake, it will lesson the shoulder impact and allow you to shoot your rifle with the most accuracy.

    Mert Leeper
     
  17. Drop-Shot

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    Merton I have to wear hearing aids now days to hear small sounds due to the noise of accubrakes,one of my friends has 0 hearing in his left ear due to my kdf recoil arrestor.I guess hearing protection should be worn but not being able to hear the rustle of a deer or elk approaching would hinder my hunting alot.If I ever get well off enough to get custom hearing aids that cut out load noises or even the Walkers digital hearing aids that would fix my problem.Remember even limited exposure to accubrakes will cause hearing loss as you age,I miss not being to hear little things anymore.At any age hearing loss is a detrement.Just the experience of an old shooter.Drop-Shot
     
  18. fase3

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    billt,
    I have the twin to yours and my hunting partners refer to it as the "Colorado Cannon. It really gets the job done and is a flat shooter. I love it out West but don't use it here in South Louisiana, Must admit to using a 300WSM across the bean fields here at the farm.
     
  19. Wyo. Coyote Hunter

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    :twisted: Drop Shot, I am with you on these muzzle brakes. To me a guy that thinks he needs a brake on his rifle, either needs to learn to shoot the rifle without it or get a smaller rifle. :? I know some guys like 'em, but I just can't see the need to harm youself and others hearing with one of these. :wink:
     
  20. billt

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    This has been hashed, and rehashed on just about every gun forum out there. The facts are that muzzle brakes are here to stay. There is no other way to shoot a severe recoiling rifle accurately from a bench rest position without one. Anyone who says different lacks the experience. Guns are noisy by there very nature. Wearing proper hearing protection is as important when shooting a .22 rimfire as a belted magnum. Buying a "smaller rifle" to avoid a muzzle brake is like hitting yourself on the head with a hammer because it feels good when you stop. I'll gladly let these "Paul Bunyon" types shoot both my .338-378 Weatherby, as well as my .460 from the bench without the brake and they can all tell me how brakes are so unnecessary. Pure hogwash, nothing more. Bill T.