Ruger 10-22 Magnum

Discussion in 'Semi's' started by treelogger, Apr 21, 2004.

  1. treelogger

    treelogger Member

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    Might as well start some discussion.

    I think I want to buy a rifle. It's for sport shooting at the range, practicing, plinking, and occasional vermin control (possum, coyote). Range out to 50 or 75 yards is sufficient (as the terrain here is very hilly). Low cost of the rifle would be good, as would be reasonably low cost of the ammo. Small and light are good, as it might make a good practice rifle for our kid in a few years, and it means I can take it into the woods (we own a dozen acres, and have access to hundreds of acres of our neighbors). It should be accurate enough that one can hit a critter with it, and that shooting it at the range is fun. And it shall be very safe when being carried around (don't want to make any extra holes in friends and family). Note that it is not intended for whitetail, elk, and even much less for lions, tigers and bears; also not for self-defense, so no larger caliber is required.

    After reading around, I think I want:
    - Semi-auto: much more convenient than bolt action, can shoot faster when following a running coyote and missing.
    - Caliber .22 WMR: Still cheap enough, yet powerful enough to take vermin at that distance. Also shoots nice and straight.

    I think this means that I'll get a Ruger 10-22 magnum. Probably bring it to the gunsmith for fine-tuning the action, and trick it out with a better hammer (VQ?), new ejectors, bolt buffer to tame the mechanical shock of the bolt, better scope base to hold the scope down (maybe the Weigand base), and a small scope to be able to hit very accurately at these distances (does a 3x-6x at 30mm sound right).

    Now the questions:

    First, I'll obviously go to a store and try the fit and feel of various guns before deciding. But I think in .22 WMR there is really no other choice than the Ruger 10-22.

    Is a bolt action really much less convenient or slower? The nice thing is that a bolt action would really open up the field to many other makes and models.

    Does the above package make any sense? Are the accessories reasonable: do they really help, or are other things needed? If I'm interested in reasonably accuracy (say 2" groups at 100 yards), do I need a replacement barrel? Would a heavy barrel help reduce recoil significantly, or is recoil already so low that it doesn't matter?

    I've heard horror stories that the 10-22 in magnum really doesn't like to feed reliably, in particular with particularly slow or hot ammo. I've also heard that a good action job and aftermarket ejectors can make that problem go away completely. I've also heard that the 10-22 is already perfectly reliable before any upgrades, and never stovepipes (not all these stories can be true). What's the scoop?

    What type of scope would people recommend, and how to mount it reliably? I've heard horror stories that the very violent bolt shock of the 22 magnum rounds tends to really rattle the scope rings all the time, and even outright break many scopes (if you tighten the rings good enough that the scope doesn't keep falling off, then the scope itself will break. Rumor has it that a bolt buffer (what kind?) will cure this.

    I'm just trying to start an interesting discussion, and have people do my homework for me :) Have at it ...
     
  2. Anonymous

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    Man, I love 22 mags. I have a Marlin 883SS (bolt) A winchester Lever and a 10-22. Of the 3 the Marlin is the best shooter and seems to like several different brands. I get the best groups with the UHHHHHH Wait I am fixin to mess this all up. Forget it my memory aint that good. The Winchester likes 1 brand, CCI. The 10-22 just doesn't make it, YET. For any of you who recognize me and remember my dislike of Ruger rifles I won this gun did not buy it. Anyway, I have done nothing to the Marlin and I kill yotes regularly and it does a great job. That Ruger, I have made a project gun out of it and it is interesting to say the least.
    Check out the Marlins I really like mine and it is a pretty gun as well.
     

  3. gwp4ever

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    You might want to look into the .17 hmr. As far as the range it is a little flatter and has a little more umph than the .22 mag. Both are great little guns though.
     
  4. md_beatt

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    I dont have a lot of experiance with .22mags. but the marlin model 60 in .22LR is inexpensive and is real accurate.
    i have had mine for 15 yrs and not one prblem with it.
    Mike.
     
  5. vicvlb

    vicvlb New Member

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    I've had my 10-22 since 1970. I just last week gave it a complete cleanig.I never have had a problem with it until I cleaned it.Its just a plain 22 rim fire not a mag.The bolt will not remain open with the trigger housing installed.It does remain open without the trigger housingun uninstalled.I've broken it down four times now and can't find the problem.The Ruger 22mag I have is a bolt action and is one fine rifle.
     
  6. markIVbigblock

    markIVbigblock Super Member

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    ive been lookin at that ruger 96/ 22 mag (lever action) it looks like a nice gun i think im gonna save up and pick one up ill let u know how it works out if i get one. something else interesting to give some thought is the new .204 ruger i dont know if centerfire is a consideration for u but it looks like awful good coyote medicine but its probably a little expensive to shoot since its so new and u cant get it in a semi u either have to go w/ a model 77 or a #1 kinda pricey but just thought id throw that out. i want someone to buy one so i know how it works out and whether i want one or not :)

    Aaron
     
  7. Jeff23

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    Treelogger--

    I owned a 10/22 magnum for about one year. I hate to have to say it, but it was back at Ruger for warranty work much of that year. It didn't feed properly from the start (this was in 2000-2001 though--they may have fixed them by now). Out of the box, the gun misfired and stovepiped all the time--I cleaned it carefully, tried different brands of ammo--couldn't find ANY ammo that it would digest without a few jams and misfires.

    Sent it back and it took four or five months for them to work on the action. Not sure exactly what they did to it, except that they said they "modified the bolt face." Got it back and it did feed better, but it still jammed and misfired, just not as often. Got disgusted and traded it in on a shotgun. :)

    At the time, I was a huge Ruger fan--I must say that I'm wary now, although I'm thinking seriously about one of their bolt-action rifles, a MKII compact. But I'm gravitating toward Remington--I don't mind so much that the .22 magnum didn't work properly out of the box--these things happen--but I couldn't believe the laziness on turn-around for a repair on a brand new rifle, as well as the fact that it really wasn't fixed after they had it for months. :shock: :shock: :roll:

    This is just one example, though. Perhaps mine was a lemon, but that's the story. :( I don't think I'd buy another Ruger autoloader.

    Jeff23
     
  8. chips

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    ive heard a lot of good things about the 10/22. there is a wide variety of aftermarket accesories for it as well. i think you'd be quite happy with one
     
  9. errolhunter

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    hi treelogger, my preference is remington model 597 in 22 mag. i have put a bushnell 3x9x40 trophy scope on it . i have put about 300 rounds through it with no misfires and no jams so far.it holds a tight pattern out to 100 yards . hope this helps you . errol
     
  10. 1300pump

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    I feel that you will have better long distance shots with a bolt action, because all of the gases are being used to expel the bullet, when the same load is used in a semi, your using the gases to expel the bullet, but your taking some of those gases and using them to eject the shell as well. If your using them for plinking thats ok, but for 100+ shots I feel you should be using a bolt action, or a larger cal bullet.

    the .22 has a tendency to drop faster than the .17, making the .17 a better distance gun.
     
  11. RedRyder21

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    Since the .22 drops faster... then does anyone know of an in-expensive.17 or .17 mag that would be good for long range varmint control?
     
  12. 1300pump

    1300pump Well-Known Member

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    remington makes a 597 in .17, and ruger makes a 10/22 in .17.

    personaly I'd pick up the 597. my gun a remingtom 522 .22 is what the 597 is based from. I never have malfunctions with good ammo, and rarly have malfunctions with bulk ammo.

    -Tim
     
  13. Anonymous

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    I have both a 10/22 and a 10/22 mag. My old 10/22 has been a great gun, but the .22 mag has been a real dog. Have spent about $400 just to get the trigger right (three gunsmiths) and it still misfires.

    At first the trigger was very, very heavy. As I was squeezing, I thought that the safety was still on. Just terrible. It doesn't feed very well either.

    I'd stay away from those 10/22 mags. I NEVER shoot mine. You want it? :lol:

    I think the .22 mag can be a good gun. However, I'm not sure that the .22 Hornet isn't just as nice and you can reload for it. If however I could be convinced that there was a .22 mag that worked I'd consider buying it. It does push the .22 out to 100 - 125 yds.
     
  14. wired

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    I had a 10/22 at one point that jammed and stovepiped like crazy. I think it has a lot more to do with the magazine than anything. I've never thought much of those rotary magazines, personally. My girlfriend's dad has a 10/22 that did the same thing. Mine had an @ssload of Volquartsen parts on it, and it still misbehaved (though when it fed okay, I could eat a quarter-sized bullseye out at 50 yards without a bench rest!).

    That's the only problem I've had with Ruger. I've got an M77MkII in .308 with a Hogue stock on it, and I love that rifle. Same way with my GP100. They make excellent firearms, and I wouldn't shy away from buying another one.... I just wouldn't get one with a rotary magazine because I'm confident that's what's causing the problem.
     
  15. Clayslayer

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    I can't say for certian but I'd wager that if you had a 10/22 and a 10/22mag, you'd be shooting the 22LR about 99.999% of the time. My dad has a Ruger 10/22 that was made in 1976. It's been fired HEAVILY for close to thirty years without any malfunctions.

    I love that gun. Couple of nice things about it:
    It's very accurate, I can shoot the "o" out of a coke can at 100 yards (using the scope).
    It's cheap. You can shoot all afternoon on $10
    It's reliable. NEVER malfunctions.

    I don't think you can go wrong with the "standard" 10/22. Pa and I've gone through several .22 mags over the years and we never really used them because ammo for the .22LR was so darn much cheaper.
     
  16. chasu

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    I was one of the few lucky ones to get a single extractor model that has never stovepiped a round. I took stainless steel wool and dursol polish and smoothed the chamber and bolt rod. Smooth as ice. Many of the Ruger 10-22 Magnum rifles had many problems, which is why they have been discontinued by Ruger. If you have one that is broken or will not eject, and you send it in to Ruger for repair, they will say that it can't be fixed and offer you a 77/22 mag as a replacement. Not bad, but I like my auto.