Smokepole

Discussion in 'Black Powder' started by HunterJon, Apr 30, 2004.

  1. HunterJon

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    So what are you all shooting for muzzleloader season. I have a Knight, American Knight, Nice little light rifle if you have to be moving around
     
  2. gwp4ever

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    I have a .50 cal Hawken style. As usual I'll be hunting elk with it in November.
     

  3. errolhunter

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    8) thompson center .50 omega got it new last year put scope on it sited in scope went hunting for deer shot spike dragged him back to truck went hunting again shot at doe missed reloaded shot at doe missed started reloading again the does put their tails in the air and walked off .spike was 40 yards away and the does were 125 yards away .errol
     
  4. Drop-Shot

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    I have a hawkin's style smoker and the barrel twist is for lead balls,sabots shoot all over the place.I only shot 2 deer with the balls and both bolted away,I thought I missed but found both deer.We were given permits to take 2 does each to thin the herds in that region.So whats the best black powder rifle out there?Drop-Shot
     
  5. gwp4ever

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    I shoot a 385 grain Buffalo Bullet with 90 gr of Triple 7 and have never had a deer take more than a step or two after being hit. I've shot 3 elk with it and two dropped almost immediatley and the third wondered off about 10 yards and went down. I've never had to shoot anything more than once with it but I always wait for a good shot.
     
  6. Drop-Shot

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    gwp4ever I tried all kinds of conicals and even though it was a little better,The rounds all shot low real low,come to think of it I wasn't shooting for accuracy but all low in a better group,I could get a lower front site and shoot conicals.That fixed that problem,I still may want an in line some day but right now I could be getting new sights and get the muzzle loader ready for action.Thanks for the helpDrop-Shot
     
  7. gwp4ever

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    Just try alot of different bullets, that's what I did. Some of them smokepoles can be really picky. What kind of powder do you use?
     
  8. Drop-Shot

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    gpeorever I use powerdex 95 gr ands patched ball.I only tried a fwew kinds sf conicals.When my back gets better I'll try dirrerent conicalc with different loads,I like gun and won't sell it.Thanks,One more question,does it matter that all my powder is very old?I bought a case on IMR 4350 1/2 case of Unique as well as 4064Can this cause a problem? Drop-Shot
     
  9. Drop-Shot

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    I ment to say gwp4ever the guestion above is my,questionDrop-Shot
     
  10. gwp4ever

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    I don't know but it seems like it could get damp after that long. Might as well try some new stuff, it might be an easy fix to your problem.
     
  11. Drop-Shot

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    gwp4ever thanks,I need to throw out all my old stuff and try conicals again.You said you use buffalo bore? I tried TC conicals and some from cabelas.When I get moving again I'll try buffalo bores.I like this gun and with balls I hit well so I'll never sell it.ThanksDrop-Shot
     
  12. 8pointduck

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    My sweet little 150x50 T/C Encore with 100 gr. Clean shot pellets and 295gr Powerbelt bullets.
    In my opinion the Encore is one of the best muzzle loaers around... :)
     
  13. paboyinva

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    I have a knight in line. model 93. Havent taken a deer with it.
    I will be out there this november.
     
  14. Levergun

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    I shoot traditional smokepoles. I have a traditions Kentucky that I like in 50 Cal.
     
  15. HunterJon

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    I got a new blackpowder rifle. Over the summer I took up Civil War Reenacting and I now own a Euroarms 58 caliber Enfield. Man is that thing a blast down at the range.
     
  16. Logjam

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    I own a original 1816 Springfield. It's still in flint. Somewhere along the line some armourer welded a little slice of hard steel to the frizzen, then filed it so you can hardly see it. It's in .69 cal and has a mirror bore.

    Talk about fun to shoot! That .69 caliber ball makes a huge hole. It must have been terrible to be hit with one of those things. Up to about 50 yds you can keep it pretty much in the black. If I shoot buck and ball (either .44 or .36 caliber balls) I always get at least one hit in the black at 50 yards.

    With that hard frizzen it seldom misfires. Talk about smoke and fire!!

    I have a similar gun that was converted to percussion in the CW. Has even a better bore, and it shoot maybe a little bit better. I don't think I have ever had a misfire, those huge musket caps put out a lot of fire.

    I paid $625 for the flintlock and $120 for the percussion gun. Bought them in 1975. The wood on the percussion gun looks like it looked when it was first issued. The barrell has a smooth brown finish with even surface pitting, breech to muzzle.

    Neat old guns; and a joy to shoot. :D
     
  17. Anonymous

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    Re-enactments are big in my neighborhood. I'm less than 20 miles from the Appomattox courthouse, where Lee surrendered, and 60 miles north of the last capital of the South. (Danville VA). Seem to recall that someone got kilt during a replay just a few years back I think the idea is to keep re-enactin till the south eventually comes out on top.
     
  18. Drop-Shot

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    Guest I used to go to vicksberg mississippi to watch re-enactments and the scale of fire made me think of all of the lives that were lost.My mother still sings old sad songs that her mother's mother sang to her,all about the loss of lives and most at such a young age,and folks trying to cope with the loss they incurred.So sad.I know folks that feel they have to fly the conffederate flag and feel the need to be different.This is the united states but we are any thing but united.Republicans,democrates and independants.and others.One person said long ago that"If we fail to study the past, we are condemed to repeat it"Keep those re-enactments going,they are a part of our heritage.Drop-Shot
     
  19. Logjam

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    Re: re: Smokepole

    You know, I've always wondered about the danger of re-enactments. For about six months I was in a unit in Calif. I was the only guy who was shooting an original rifle, an 1861 Springfield.

    But we'd load up our cartridge boxes with pre-measured loads and a wad. We'd dump the powder down the bore and tamp down the wad.

    But we also shot real loads at targets, hanging pieces of tile. Really fun to shoot at them. I always figured that someone, some place would leave one of those live rounds in his box and load and shoot it by mistake.

    That's putting just a little too much reality into the re enactment, don't ya think? :roll:

    I did see some guys shooting original Smith Carbines too. Now they make a replica, but they didn't then.

    I left the unit because I thought it was just a little bit weird. My unit was a Confederate one and guys were saying that they just didn't like being around the Yankee guys...a little strange to me.

    BTW: If you haven't already read "Confederates in the Attic" you must, its a wonderful book about how seriously some guys take re enacting. A good read, well written.
     
  20. Drop-Shot

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    Logjam isn't it strange that some people still hold grudges about that war?That was too many life times ago,let go I say to those guys.Drop-Shot