triggers

Discussion in 'Sturm, Ruger & Company' started by 8pointduck, Jun 18, 2004.

  1. 8pointduck

    8pointduck Super Member

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    What is up with Rugers trigger pull . It has to be the worst in the industry. Don't get me wrong ,I like the rifles but don't you think the accuracy would be a whole lot better if they had an adjustable
     
  2. gwp4ever

    gwp4ever Super Member

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    I've never had any problem with them but the few Remington 700's that I've shot have had horrible pulls.
     

  3. wwb

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    I don't know what the new ones are like, but my 1976 vintage M77 has no creep, about .010" overtravel, and breaks cleanly at 3-1/2 lb. The overtravel is adjustable, and I could try to get to zero, but .010" is livable. And it's a factory trigger; never tweaked at all.
     
  4. Anonymous

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    Re: re: triggers

    when you want to get rid of that '76 vintage ruger let me know, i'll buy it. the new rugers all have the lawyer triggers on them and they suck(trigger not whole gun). either have them worked by a gun smith or buy a after market trigger to drop into them. i will be having mine done very soon, the older ones where adjustable and came from the factory with proper setting usualy (as wwb can testify) right where you would want it.
     
  5. Jeff23

    Jeff23 Well-Known Member

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    Hey All--

    There's a solution to this--I'm trying it now. I just bought a new Ruger 77 MkII in .308 (just had to have one, you know). It's nicely fitted and finished, etc., accuracy is ok (about an inch at 100 yards--as good as I can honestly shoot). Trigger wasn't creepy, but it was really heavy. But I followed a hint in the owner's manual, which said to contact them if there were any accuracy problems. Called, got a very nice lady on the phone, who said ship it in and they would adjust the trigger and check the barrel for accuracy. Turn around is oficially six weeks, but any work they do is free. So I sent it, and I'll let you all know how it comes out. She said the factory trigger adjustment takes it to 3 1/2 pounds, fine for me, since I'm hunting with it, not benchrest shooting.
     
  6. Drop-Shot

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    Likewwb my ruger is the older gun,I had alot of work done to it,mostly a trade,I pulled a472 cadilac and installed another.So I traded,he said he cleaned up the trigger and every one says wow and put the barrelled action in a Bell&Carlson fiber stock.He took it upon himself to install a recoil arresror(which I hate,the noise makes you want to vomit)and at my request he parkerized the action and barrell.I spent 3 days and a sweet deal on an older 472,I installed a new rear main seal cause I knew the one that sat up dried and would leak.I have alot of work on the gun to make it accurate but with 180's I shot 1 1/2 and above.Now I load 56 gr IMR4350(max load) with hornady 165 gr spire point and shoot 5 shots in a 1 inch square.Now I would love to get rid of that recoil aresstor,oh also the gunsmith squared the reciever,cut the locking lugs and full floated the barrell.I can do alot on guns so I would like to rebarrel my ruger and put a 24 inch barrel.Drop-Shot
     
  7. luv2safari

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    The MKII triggers are not adjustable and are about a lousey as anything that Ruger could design, IMHO. I have installed Timneys in my MKIIs and now have wonderful rifles.

    Ruger does clean up the triggers for anyone who wants it done; they should do this BEFORE any rifle leaves the factory...charge a bit more for the rifle... :idea: :idea:

    Their crummie trigger aside, I am a strong supporter of the Ruger products. Their safari rifle is the best anywhere in its price range.
     
  8. daddywpb

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    I just got a M77 MK2 in 30/06. It's beautiful rifle, and shoots great - except for the trigger, of course. Mine is exceptionally heavy. There is no creep, but very heavy pull. The good news is that my wife is going to buy me a Timney trigger for Christmas, so I don't have long to wait. My only complaint with the rifle is trigger pull. I think with the Timney my groups will shrink considerably. I was also looking at Winchester Mod 70's and Remington 700's. All of the ones I looked at would have required a new trigger right away also, nad I like the looks of the Ruger much better.
     
  9. Drop-Shot

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    daddywpb I have acouple winchesters,94 and model 70 and 5 remingtons and 1 older ruger,tang saftey,I had a trigger job on my ruger but it wasn't as bad as the newer rugers but all my remingtons and my winchesters have a great trigger pull.The remingtons are the best for me,I picked up a remington CDL and the out of the box trigger was perfect.Mabe you got an unusally bad example,I own enough long guns to have to own a 25 gun safe and a 10 gun safe so I have alot of the firearms you described as bad triggers and I disagree,mabe I got all good examples,I don't know,the new rugers all have hard triggers and need adjustment and honing but my remingtons and winchesters and Brownings and marlins are great and don't need any thing other than a healthy person on the shooting end,which I'm not,but I have high hopes of getting better.Drop-Shot
     
  10. daddywpb

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    Drop-Shot,
    I'm glad that you're happy with the triggers on your guns. I didn't mean that every single gun from those manufactures needs work out of the box. You have a lot more of them than I do, so you probably have a more accurate view of the triggers as a whole from your experience. I can only go by the ones I've seen. Besides, my idea of a good trigger and your idea of a good trigger may be very differant. A good friend of mine bought a Remington 700 Varmint model in 22-250 recently, took it to the range once, and said he wasn't going to fire it again untill he put a Timney trigger in it. I dry fired the same rifle and thought that the trigger was pretty good. :shock:
     
  11. Drop-Shot

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    Thats true dadywpb,I have a friend with a savage 110 and I pull off target to shoot and he doesn't,I think his trigger is rotten but he swears it's ok,I let him shoot one of my remingtons and he said he didn't like a touchy trigger and thought it was unsafe.So it is a personal perception of what a good trigger is that is important.good luck>Drop-Shot
     
  12. Anonymous

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    I think the comoany lawyers have a hand it what the trigger should be set at.
     
  13. Drop-Shot

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    Guest,it's a shame that that statement is true.The laywers only represent a fraction of gun buyers but have the most say.Look at the new ruger trigger,it's hard and the one I looked at had a scratchy release,the older rugers were fine.It's a shame but I think you sir are correct.I looked at a safari grade ruger and for 955.00 (I think that was the price) you get a better trigger,and most likely a great gun.Drop-Shot
     
  14. Dean

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    A search at Brownells site will get you a lighter trigger spring. That helps some. The trigger parts themselves generally need to be cleaned up to smooth the pull. My model 77 MKII had a lot of machine marks that was causing a jerking sensation. From the factory the trigger pulled at nearly 8 pounds!