Weatherby

Discussion in 'Weatherby' started by markIVbigblock, Jul 22, 2004.

  1. markIVbigblock

    markIVbigblock Super Member

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    ok guys I know i should post this in the weatherby forum but i figured id get more traffic here I wanna know what u guys think about the vanguards i know they rnt the same as the mark V's but they are pretty good priced for a weatherby which i think are overpriced showpieces but these vanguards seem to be a real hunters rifle and ive been lookin at that .300 wby mag ever since someone on here mentioned it I would like a .340 wby mag but they dont offer it in the vanguard what do u guys think should i go for it??

    Aaron
     
  2. Drop-Shot

    Drop-Shot Super Member

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    I have owned a vanguard for 9 years and reload 180 gr barnes X bullet and while carring it I have never seen an elk that I could legally shoot.But I have shot 3 muleys and to be honest it's overkill on deer.I wasted 1 front shoulder,part of the neck and backstrap.I had far less damage with core lockes.I love mine and when I go where the big ones hide I sure like the confidence it brings.Should you get one?hell yes,Shells sell for as much as I pay for hunting pants,and If you want to go hunting where there is no store that wwb mentioned your in deep ca ca.Reload and Have fun,with barnes I shoot right about an inch at 100 yards and the bullet will kill at 600 yards.There is a club of long range shooters in south Washington and several use 300 weatherby.I can't see that far much less soot that far but with a 300 weatherby mag You can.I love mine no matter where it was made and you will love yours too.When I get back to Montana,give me a call and I'll show you places elk roam at those ranges,they look like dots to me when I can focus,but you young guns can see great,have funDrop-Shot
     

  3. 43 2N

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    I like my Vanguard and Howa 1500(basicly the same gun).I'd say if you like how it feels,get it.It will be a good gun.The caliber choice depends on what you want to do with the gun.
     
  4. markIVbigblock

    markIVbigblock Super Member

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    D shot i figured it would be overkill for deer thats why i have my .270 i was thinkin if i ever get the chance to go for elk or even a griz :D thanx for the opinions im gonna look into it further

    Aaron
     
  5. BlackIce

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    I just purchased on in 300 WBY.... With a Nikon Monarch..... and I am having a muzzle break put on it... I'll be getting it next week...... I will give you the low down when I site it in!!!
     
  6. markIVbigblock

    markIVbigblock Super Member

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    Re: re: Weatherby

    thats awesome blackice im really looking forward to hearing all about it I just found a used mark V in 340 wby which I really want for 500$ but I was wonderin if u guys could answer this for me is 340 wby too big for elk? im lookin at it because someday i plan on goin on a grizzly hunt and im wondering about elk because i plan on moving somewhere where I can hunt elk when i get out of college.

    Aaron
     
  7. BlackIce

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    I am not up on Rifle charges anymore... I am more familiar with shotguns and handguns....... But if you have a wide range of bullet grain to work with ..... then I don't think it will be too big to use....

    I am using the 300 for deer at this moment until I get a 270.... So its knd of like the same scenerio!!!! A little large but not too large!!!
     
  8. Drop-Shot

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    Aaron my brother-in-law still lives in montana and hunts with a sako in 340 weatherby mag and loves it.It's a hard kicker,you don't want to shoot more than 3 or 4 times to sight in,in a row,you have to wait awhile and then shoot more.The 340 is right under the mighty 375 H&H.Some reloads put it close to 375 but why?The 340 will kill any thing in north America.You being young will probley love it,as I get older I look for milder rounds like this BLR in 358,it won't do what the 340 will do by any stretch,but it don't punish me like the 340 did,get it and keep it,Enjoy.Drop-Shot
     
  9. Mac11700

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    From the Vangaurds I've seen they don't look to bad for the money...but I'm not to sure about the 24" barrel...from everything I've heard..you really need the extra lenght to achieve the factory ballistics...I do know they aren't as smooth as a Mark V but they are a whole lot less...


    Mac
     
  10. BlackIce

    BlackIce Member

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    All you neeed to add is a Muzzle Break... and BAM..... 2 extra inches.... now you have a 26" barrel
     
  11. GunRunner

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    I was interested in buying the Vanguard in 7mm Rem Mag w/ muzzle break. Stainless action with the composite desert stock. It looks like a pretty awesome rifle for the money. I am excited to go out an order it.
     
  12. idahoriflelover

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    Hey there. Give me a heads up a bit. My wife and I are going to get some new rifles. She really doesn't care for her as long as it don't knock her on her ass. For me, I can't decide between the Remington 700 or a Mark V or a Sako. It seems like people say a Remington will shoot just as good as a Sako but not quite as good as a Weatherby. If true, is the extra 1000 bucks worth it.
     
  13. huntswithdogs

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    What are ya gonna use them for? Targets? Hunting? If hunting,for what?

    HWD
     
  14. luv2safari

    luv2safari Moderator

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    The dirty little secret is that the Vanguard as a rule is far more accurate than the glitzy MKV. :wink: My very old 7mm Wby on an FN action was a real shooter, but my later German MKV never was anything to brag about...1 1/2" 3 shot groups at 100 yds... :( Over about 11 years I sighted in rifles for various customers, and the MKV's never shot all that well, even with the 26" #2 contour barels. The Vanguards at times shot the same ragged hole. :D :idea:

    I think the Vanguard is hard to beat at any price.
    :D :D
    L2S
     
  15. rustech

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    I have a Vangaurd in 30.06. Having just moved to Colorado, I plan to shoot mule deer and possibly an elk with it. what load and bullet weight would you reccomend for these uses?
    I came from Iowa where we take white tails with shotgun slugs. this real deal '06 looks like a treat to me.
    thanks, Russ
     
  16. wwb

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    Something around 150 -165 grains for Mule Deer. 180s for Elk.... maybe even 200 grains.

    Most important is good bullet construction... you get both penetration and expansion at a wide variety of velocities, and the bullet will hold together if you hit bone.

    Most any of the premium bullet offerings are okay - everybody has their favorite, but they're all vastly superior to what we had 20 or 30 years ago.
     
  17. luv2safari

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    re:wwb...

    WHAT HE SAID! :D