Which Tip To Chose?

Discussion in 'Center Fire' started by BlackIce, Aug 24, 2004.

  1. BlackIce

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    I recently pick up my .300 WBY Mag........ the question has arrived.... what grain and tip should I use........

    Game...... Whote Tail mainly... with a little Elk.....

    Tossing around.....165gr or 180gr.....

    tips... Ballistic, SP, Partion....

    Need some guidance.... Newby here
     
  2. gwp4ever

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    I would go with the 180 grain Partition, it will be great for elk. No matter what you use for deer, you're probably a little overpowered, but I'd stick with the 180 for them too. If you go to small and fast you'll destroy a lot more meat. I would also avoid the ballistic tips.
     

  3. markIVbigblock

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    id use 165 sp's for deer ull be overpowered no matter what so if u can find somethin smaller than 165 go for it. and for elk id go w/ gwp the 180 partitiions dont use ballistic tips for elk they may be alright for deer but i def. would not use them for elk

    Aaron
     
  4. Anonymous

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    With the Weatherby, stick with the 180 gr bullets with a strongly constructed bullet. If you get lighter, you run the risk of the bullet fragmenting, especially on large game like elk and/or if the range is short ( something in the 50 yard or so range) on any game. I use a 300 Win Mag and a 150 gr Sierra Gameking will not exit a quartering 130 pound doe nor a 170 pound buck shot in the shoulder. It will expand quite explosively and ruin a fair amount of meat based on personal experience. I stick with 180 gr bullets in the standard configurations for deer and use a stoutly constructed bullet such as the Partition for elk and other big game. With the higher velocity of the Weatherby, I would lean toward premium bullets for all use.
     
  5. gwp4ever

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    The problem with some of the magnum calibers is that when you go down to a 150 grains or so the only thing that happens is you destroy meat. The bullet is just to fast with hardly any penetration and just explodes meat. I've seen it alot of times with 150's from a .300 win, so the Weatherby will probably be even worse.
     
  6. wwb

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    The weight of the bullet has less to do with the outcome than the construction of the bullet, and all bullets are a compromise. If you knew ahead of time what range you were going to shoot, you'd pick the right bullet. It just don't work that way, though.

    As the target gets farther and farther away, the velocity drops off, and a really tough bullet like a Barnes X won't expand, since it's really intended to penetrate heavy animals and also to not fragment in a close-range high-velocity hit. A softer bullet (ideal for a long-range shot, because it will expand at lower velocity) is exactly the wrong thing for the deer that suddenly appears 25 yards away. Remember... you DO want the bullet to expand and not exit; that way, it expends all its energy on (in) the target. If not, it will just drill right through the animal and, unless the lungs or heart are hit, you have a lot of trailing in your future, and a small exit wound (small blood trail).

    What all the premium bullets are trying to do is retain a fair amount of weight in a close hit and be able to penetrate on a heavy animal, yet still expand, at least somewhat, at longer ranges/lower velocities. The Swift A-Frame, Nosler Partition, and Barnes X are probably the best known of the bunch.

    Anything with "bonded" in the title is also designed to keep the jacket and core from separating, thereby giving a higher retained weight percentage and better penetration, yet still having a soft enough nose to expand at lower velocity.

    If you figure on shooting whitetails at reasonably close range (100 yards or less), you should take up handloading and look into reduced loads for the .300 Wby.
     
  7. markIVbigblock

    markIVbigblock Super Member

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    that was a good lesson wwb i totally agree w/ u on everything u said and most deer in mi are taken within 100 yards so the .300 wby isnt the best choice i have a .270 for deer but i have used a .300 win mag up in the UP and it did some damage let me tell u there was no runnin in his future once he got hit itll do the job and granted reduced loads are a good idea i would say its better in most cases to have overkill than to let one run off but thats my opinion anyways black ice hows that weatherby shoot? u got a vanguard right?

    Aaron