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With 270 gr spitzers the 375 H&H shoots as flat as a 30-06 with 180's. With handloads and 350 gr bullets it hits almost as hard as a 458 Winchester and has great penetration.

Where should it fall...Big Bore or Medium...? Maybe it is in a class by itself. :shock:
 

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deerdown,

It is a debate that will never see answered. Whether it is a big bore or a medium bore is all a matter of perspective. :shock:

Those who hunt dangerous game all swear that anything smaller than 40 cal is a small bore. Here in the US where we are enamoured with velocity the 375 is a big bore.

My opinion is that it is the best of the MEDIUM bores. By the way, I like your rifle and wish I owned it. I had a set of 375 Win barrels for my Valmet 412 o/u. I never got to use them on a hunt but thought well of the caliber. I tended to opt for the smaller diameter but more powerful 9.3X74R.

How does that Marlin shoot? My old 35 Rem Marlin was a great little rifle! :D
 

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Luv2safari

My 375 shoots great I got it back in 1992.Its a great woods gun it has droped many deer for me.Most of them droped in there tracks.I also have a 35 rem in a marlin 336 and its a shooter to.I guess I'm what you would call a marlin man.All of my rifles are marlins.
30/30 in 336RC
30/30 I had rechambered to a 307 win. in 336
35 rem in 336RC
356 win. in a 336ER
375 win. in a marlin 375M
444 marlin
45/70 in 1895SS
45/70 in 1895G

All of my hunting is done in thick woods or the thickets around the swamps in the tommbigbee river bottom.So I don't need a high velocity flat shooting rifle.All of my shots are less than a 100 yards and most shots are less than 50 yards.So a fast handleing hard hitting rifle fits the bill.And the 375 win. does a great job for my kind of hunting..
 

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id have to say medium bore cuz in my oppinion only guns .45 caliber or bigger is considered big bore
 

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Hehe, bores or not, it's not exactly something you just get a hankering to get up and shoot 20 or 30 rounds before you head off to work. In my book - that definately qualifies it for big bore.
 

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:!: 20 - 30 shots!? I fired three moderate .375 H&H loads t'other day... no problem. Then let off five hot 45-70 loads and QUIT shooting with a bonkers headache! That 45-70 was a hussy. Don't think I could get off 20 rounds with that load in a week. SHOOT SAFE.
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lol u shoulda been there when i was shooting that .375 h&h magnum made by ultralite arms cuz that was a horrible gun to shoot and i think it might have been the same as being on the opposite end of the gun while fired :lol:
 

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I had the same experience with an 8 1/2 pound Whitworth that was re-chambered from 458 Win to Lott. I swore I had put the wrong end of the gun to my shoulder. Even in a 10 pound gun, the 458 Lott is a punisher! :shock: :shock:
 

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now that u bring up the .458 win magnum i am reminded of an M1 garand rifle that i saw in an old tactical shooting magazine that had been converted from .308 to .458 magnum and it said that that cartridge was like the biggest cartridge that the M1 reciever could handle and i was thinkin that it would actualy be a dream to shoot cuz not only do them garand rifles weigh like 12 lbs but also gas opperated so i was thinking that the recoil would be pretty managable but i would also think that if i had a gun like that i might get a lil too trigger happy with a semi auto .458 magnum :twisted:
 

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The 458 Win is a pu$$ycat! :lol: I would much rather shoot my 1914 Enfield based 458 Win than my factory Ruger SS/Syn 77 in 338 Win! :shock: AAANNNDDD...the 458 has a steel butt plate!! :twisted:

I had heard of an M1A being converted to 458; is that what you were talking about? Would be interesting to shoot... :p
 

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I think it spans both worlds quite nicely,it can suffice to take on some of the meanest and nastiest critters,and also do rather well for the much smaller species.Maybe you could say it was the smallest bigbore around?

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Re: re: 375 H&H, Is it a Big Bore or a Medium Bore?

luv2safari said:
deerdown,

It is a debate that will never see answered. Whether it is a big bore or a medium bore is all a matter of perspective. :shock:

Those who hunt dangerous game all swear that anything smaller than 40 cal is a small bore. Here in the US where we are enamoured with velocity the 375 is a big bore.

My opinion is that it is the best of the MEDIUM bores. By the way, I like your rifle and wish I owned it. I had a set of 375 Win barrels for my Valmet 412 o/u. I never got to use them on a hunt but thought well of the caliber. I tended to opt for the smaller diameter but more powerful 9.3X74R.

How does that Marlin shoot? My old 35 Rem Marlin was a great little rifle! :D
I agree with Luv2safari, the 375 H&H has always been considered by Americans as a big bore, but it is not, and is a very well designed MEDIUM bore that is considered the minimum for dangerous game in most countries in Africa, with the 9.3s a minimum in a few! the big bore start a .400 caliber, that produce 4000 fpe or more!

The 375 H&H is a one rifle for the world, and is well suited for anything North American has to offer, and "WILL DO" for anything Africa has to offer, if one is carefull where he places his bullets, and what bullet he uses! I will say, the only one shot kills I have had on Cape Buffalo have been with a 375H&H, pushing a 300 gr Nosler partition bullet @ 2550 fps. All others have taken at least 3 shots, and many far more shots, regardless of the caliber, or bullet type used, unless the spine or brain was hit.

My vote was for Medium!
 
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