I have a Remington 7mm-08 I sighted it in with win fail safe
140gr. I cant seem to find out other than deer what this
cartridge will Kill such as elk or bear? Has anyone had any
experience with this model.
Hey, glad to meet another fan of the 7mm-08. I got a Rem. mod.7 suped it up with a leupold 3x9 and a timmney trigger. With a 175 grainer the little 7mm will do majior damage to rather large beasties. That is if ya put the bullet where its supost ta go.Mine is mainly used for a light walk around varmint gun with the 115gr. speer bullets. This gun shoots the 115,and the 140's in the same spot. Flipped me out!! Ive taken several deer and a load of varmints,we dont have any Griz left in NW Arkansas,Dang yankees gotem!! Enjoy and keep postin about how yer new rifle shoots.
I would have no qualms on using that load on an elk. A buddy uses the 150 gr Barnes in a 308 for his elk and they have exited on broadside and slightly quartering shots. I wouldn't expect it to break shoulders and exit or penetrate lengthwise but for the above shots out to 250 yards I don't see any problem. This would also be my recommended factory bullet for black bear also. Again, don't expect it to break shoulders and still stay together but for lung shots it should work well. If we ever draw another moose tag, this or the Barnes is the bullet my wife will use in her 7mm/08.
The minimum that I would use for elk would be a .270 or .308. The 7mm-08 just doesn't have it, especially at the range you described. But you are also probably alot more experienced than the average hunter too, but for me I just wouldn't be all that comfortable using it for elk and I do have quite a few bulls under my belt, I've seen too many get up after a solid shoulder shot with a .300 win. Every once in a while you get one that just seems a little tougher than your average bull.
OTOH someone might be better with a 7mm-08 if the recoil from something larger causes them to not be able to shoot well. As for moose if you got the sack to use the 7mm for that, well then you're alot braver than I am. :shock:
I'll have to relate your comments on the 7mm/08 to my wife, I knew she wore the pants in this family but now a few other things are starting to come together.
I'm a 300 Win mag person myself, especially for moose (that is a different story), but as long as a good quality, heavily constructed bullet is used and high percentage shots are taken, I see no real difference between the 270, 7mm/08, and the 308 and they should all be quite comparable on game. I would have no qualms about using them on moose with a premium bullet, I've seen many taken with 7x57 and 6.5x55 which are not very different from the 7mm/08.
No problem. I would use emoticons but can't seem to be able to move them over for some reason. "PCs for Dummies" is not simple enough for me.
In my estimation, the Winchester Fail Safe, Barnes X-Bullet, Nosler Partition, Speer Grand Slam, and Bear Claw (I can't think of who makes them off hand), in this order, would be sufficient for large boned game like elk and bear in this caliber. I would look for bullet weights in the 139-150 gr range with the heavier bullets preferred for moose. My nephew uses the Hornady Light Magnum for deer and has had great results with it but I haven't used any Hornady products myself. I would not be comfortable using standard bullets such as Core-Lokts, Power Points, Gamekings, etc. on large bodied animals in this caliber though I'm sure others have done it. Ballistically, on paper and game, the 7mm/08 is very comparable to the 270 and 308 with bullets in this weight range and is definitely the minimum I would recommend for elk and maybe stretching things a bit for moose.
gwp4ever wrote: <snip>: OTOH someone might be better with a 7mm-08 if the recoil from something larger causes them to not be able to shoot well.
No telling how many deer I might have killed with a 243 when I was a youngster. Instead, I made a lot of noise with a 30-06.
Dad had a 264 mag that he thought was appropriate for deer.
In the camp pictures, he was the guy with the perennial black eye
For a given bullet weight, the 7 mag is a few hundred feet faster than the 7-08. Not that impressive when you compare the size of the 7mm-08 cartridge, and the 7mm mag. I would be inclined to think that among the 7s (280,284,7mag,7-08), that bullet placement is the critical thing.