Anybody ever shoot a full auto gun?

Discussion in 'Rifle Talk' started by clayshooter25/25, Feb 3, 2005.

  1. A guy at the range Sunday asked if I wanted to shoot the full auto gun. Of course I said yes :wink: It was an M-4 in .22 rimfire. I shot two 50 (or 100 can't remember) round magazines in less than 10 seconds. It was extremely fun :D .
     
  2. goose

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    the only full auto i have shot is an m16a1 which was latter changed to the m16a2 in an attempt to save amunition the a1 is full auto, semi auto and safe selectable. the a2 was 3 round burst or semi auto but you could feather the trigger still and run it to full auto capacity if you really wanted to.
     

  3. uglydog

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    My first experience with a full auto gun was when the sear broke in my A-5 and it cooked off all five in about a second. Since then I've fired several types of sub-machine guns like the Uzi, Ingrams, M-2 carbine, MP-5, Schmeisser, Sten, 1927 Thompson, and M-3 "Grease Gun"; some battle rifles like the AKs, FN-FAL, Steyr AUG, different variants of the M-16, and a Galiel; and a few machine guns like the Hotchkiss, 1917, MG-42, M-60, Ma Deuce, and a 20 mm Orkelion (sp). The heavy guns and many of the lighter ones I had the opportunity to shoot at various "cannon shows" I attended with my dad as he is a long range and 50 cal shooter. The Uzi, MP-5, AUG, and some M-16 variants I shot at some schools as a police officer, while a couple of the others were shot at a range that has some of these for rent (the MG-42, M-60, 1917, Schmeisser, Thompson, Sten, M-3, AKM [?], and FN-FAL). It is fun to shoot them but too expensive for my blood except for schools where someone else was picking up the tab!!
     
  4. I agree with you about the expense of shooting full auto. Luckily I didn't have to pay for the two magazines that I shot :wink: .
     
  5. wwb

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    About 36 years ago, I had the "opportunity" to fire the M14-A1, the M16, the M60, and the Browning 50 (as a tripod mount single, and as turret mounted quad 50's). And, as non-fully automatic weapons, I also qualified with the 1911, the M79 grenade launcher, the LAW, the 105 recoilless, and the 60mm mortar.
     
  6. That must have been fun. I know a guy that was a heavy machine gunner in the Marines and out of all the guns he shot the grenade launcher was the most fun.
     
  7. FL-shooter

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    The most fun I ever had in the military was shooting the MK-19. Automatic 40mm Grenade Launcher :lol: Shot the M-60, SAW. M203 grenade launcher, and of course M16 A2, but there is nothing like it.
     
  8. njbowhntr

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    My experience with a fully auto would be with the Browning M2 .50 cal. What a fun gun to shoot. I got to shoot that gun alot when I was in the Navy. Being a Sonar Tech, we were responsible for manning the .50 for GQ. Being I loved guns they decided to put me up there. What an incredible feel to just rip off rounds into the ocean.
     
  9. Logjam

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    As many posting here I fired full auto weapons while in the infantry. I fired the M16A1, M60 and the HB 50 cal machine gun. I also fired full auto 20 mite mites while flying Shyhawks in the Marine Corps.

    It's always fun to fire those weapons, but I'm not sure about the effectiveness of them. The 20 mite mite did a lot of damage, certainly, but it was really a rapid fire canon. The M60 could do some hurting too, but it was only effective when used with a series of guns firing in a grid.

    The M-16 was fun to fire full auto, but you only got a hit with the first or second round. The rest just went high and bounced all over the place.

    The 50 cal; was fun to shoot. It could be extremely accurate and it shot a long ways away. It is a truly amazing weapon, especially when you consider who old it is. You won't find many opportunities to shoot it in the civilian world however.

    If you really want to do some damage with a M-16 shoot it semi-auto.

    If you want to shoot some wild weapons I suggest that you join either the Marine Corps or the Army Infantry. Go ahead and try it; you will be amazed at how many wild weapons you will be tasked to shoot.
     
  10. Merton Leeper

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    :) In Nam, my firearm was a carbine with a selector switch - which was either fully auto or semi-auto. I carried around 1500 rounds in bandelaros around by body and crissed crossed like an X. And all of the grenades I could handle. I was assigned to the only Raider Battalion in Nam - The 2nd Battallion 1st Marines, 1st Marine Division. This carbine saved my life more than once and I never had any trouble with it. I went through so many 30 round clips that you couldn't even count them. Wish I could have brought this weapon back to the states just to have in my modest collection.

    I don't really have any desire to shoot an full auto anymore. I really like my Kimber 45 Custom - 1911 model. It is more suited for use as a home and field protection piece. Semper Fi
     
  11. Logjam

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    Re: re: Anybody ever shoot a full auto gun?

    I don't really have any desire to shoot an full auto anymore. I really like my Kimber 45 Custom - 1911 model. It is more suited for use as a home and field protection piece. Semper Fi[/quote]

    I agree; shooting semi-auto isn't what it's cracked up to be (in my opinion.)

    Where I live it's pretty easy to buy a machine gun, or a sub machine gun. Before Bill Clinton's 1994 bill to limit the number of machine guns there were pretty cheap too. You could get a tommy gun for about a thousand bucks.

    Now the guns are very expensive; almost 20 grand!!!!

    I went to the range last Fall. It's outdoors in the desert. There were two guys there jamming 9mm rounds into these long magazines. One guys said to me, "After you shoot full auto you'll never want to shoot semi-auto again."

    So after he burned up about $20 worth of shells he jestered for me to come over and take a few shots. Now, I'd shot lots of machine guns before. I took the guy's gun and fired it at the steel swinging targets that he'd set up about 20 yds away. Got a few hits.

    I handed the gun back, and while I didn't say anything to the bloke I thought to myself, "Man what a waste of time and money".

    Then I went over and picked up my Semi AR-15 and shot at some targets 200 yds away and hit them every shot.
     
  12. GHO III

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    M2 .50 was my favorite to shoot. The m16a1 was a let down. M60 was ok but a pain to maintain, 3 shot bursts to stay on target. Now i just stay to one good shot at a time. It is definitally cheaper and more effective.

    George
     
  13. Logjam

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    Re: re: Anybody ever shoot a full auto gun?

    Yeah, the M16A1 at full auto seemed almost like a toy. Brrrrrrt, and the magazine was empty.

    Indeed the M2HB. 50 cal was fun to shoot. It also shot with authority. You could easily thumb off one or two rounds. It did bounce all over the place when firing a long string of rounds.
     
  14. wwb

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    Re: re: Anybody ever shoot a full auto gun?

    You ain't seen authority 'til you've seen quad 50's work.... a quad 50 turret on the back of a deuce-and-a-half would shake the whole truck.

    Edited... check the following link:

    http://www.geocities.com/EANDG924/quad.html

    Our batallion had one for convoy escort.... ran between Dau Tieng and Lai Khe. Whenever our Recon squad was on standdown, we pulled convoy escort duty. As soon as you were out the front gate of the firebase, the command was "Check your guns!" A short burst to insure that they all fired would usually cut down several trees at the woodline.
     
  15. Anonymous

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    I have been fortunate enough to shoot a full auto Uzi 9mm, an M2 30 cal. carbine and a 9mm Glock pistol with a 32 round magazine fully charged what a hoot.
     
  16. RWH24

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    Mac 10, Mac 11, Uzi, Mini-Uzi, several I can't spell or remember, HK MP-5, M-16, AC-5.56K, a 12ga shotgun that looked like a M-16 on steroids w/drum magazine, M-2 30cal carbine, AK47 and several that were semi autos but someone did some illegal work and they fired more than 1 or 2 rounds with 1 trigger pull :roll:

    The MP-5 ATF agents had would fire only 2 rounds with a single trigger pull :wink:pretty neat.

    Why dance when you can Rock~N~Roll :lol:

    Just Spray and Pray

    I really like 2 & 3 shot bursts better :wink:
     
  17. Logjam

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    While I'm not a big fan of full auto fire....it misses a lot and burns up ammo. I do wish that they could remove the Clinton ban on making new machine guns.

    Eleven years ago you could buy a new Tommy Gun, full auto; for around a thousand bucks. Now a similar gun costs almost 20 grand. All because new ones can't be licensed.

    As far as I can tell, there has never been a crime committed by a legally owned machine gun.

    They are working on outlawing the .50 cal guns too....The Barretts.

    Too bad.
     
  18. Anonymous

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    I fired about everything in the US and the NVA inventory when my uncle gave me an all expenses paid trip to SouthEast Asia.

    I agree with the comments stating that full auto is inefficient and am a strong proponent of the three round burst. A three round burst, however, that is the result of training, not mechanical devices. My reasoning for this is based primarily on the rare need for Final Protective Fires.

    When your target is not shooting back, you will find a single shot most challanging and most economical of all the actions. A semi is most likely the most efficient for one with the discipline to take only aimed shots.

    My most impressive experience w full auto was with a test of a 7.62 minigun at Ft Knox. It was mounted on an M113 and had NO sights. It was absurd, but man. was it a hoot to shoot!
     
  19. Logjam

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    During the VN war I flew A-4 Skyhawks in the Marines. We had two 20 mm mk 12's imbedded in the wing roots. We usually only carried 75 rpg, but they were fun to shoot.

    Roll in on the target press until you are close and then lay on the trigger. Boom, boom, boom; the entire aircraft shook. It slowed down too do to the recoil.

    We also hung Mk 4 gun pods underneath. They held about 750 rpg and shoot much faster (if they didn't jam.) Also a lot of fun to shoot.

    A 20 mm shooting 2,000 rpm can really chew things up. :shock:

    But dropping Napalm was pure joy!! :lol:
     
  20. asylum keeper

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    I have fired a full auto Glock, that was fun.