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Discussion in 'Rifle Talk' started by luv2safari, Feb 27, 2005.
Do we have any DR shooters on board...any kind of double rifle??? :?: :?:
So far me with my Valmet O/U in 7mm rimmed. It works well with the S&B ammo I found. I still need to get dies to start working up a reload that will group decently. I traded for claw foot rings and for now mounted an inexpensive 4x scope I had laying around. It works fine and I'll maybe replace it at a later time.
Also, does a 45/70 deringer count? It doesn't have a butt stock but it is a rifle caliber.
The Valmet counts ; the 45/70 doesn't :? :wink:
If you find you have to have a genuine Valmet scope mount for the o/u, I have 4-5 lying around...for a price. :twisted:
The 7x57 rimmed is a great caliber. I had a nice J.P. Sauer drilling in 16 & 7x57R. It was one of my favorites, but I took it to my "buddy", the DR & Drilling specialist for some extractor work and the S.#.B. bought the gun from me instead...for a price. :twisted: :wink:
I recently bought an EAA IZH 94 in 12/7x57R and like the gun for what it is, an inexpensive and accurate combo gun. I have a Valmet 412S single trigger and a Tikka 512S double trigger and a slew of barrels. If you find you need other barrel sets, I might have what you want...for a price. :twisted:
All kidding aside, I love the Valmet system and have used these guns here and in Africe with great success. My favorite set to take is the DT Tikka and a set of 9,3X74R o/u barrels with a second set of 12ga/9,3X74R for bird hunting and whatever wanders by. I took an already wounded cape buffalo with the 12/9,3 set while hunting Francolin at Lokisale Camp in N. Tanzania. Another hunter had made a decent shot on the buffalo the day before but lost track of it when it ran into Tarangeri Park, where we couldn't follow without authorization from the Park officials. The wounded buffalo came down out of the park to the only water hole around at that time...where we were hunting the Francolin. He was about 70 yards away and the PH had a 416 Remingtom as back up, so he had me take a shot.
I realy do like the Valmet 412 based guns and would like to find a 7mm rimmed barrel set some day.
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I also have a rifle/shotgun combo as well as a drilling if these count. The drilling is also a J.P. Sauer in 16x16x8mm something. It isn't an 8x57 rimmed and gunsmith in the shop I bought it from couldn't easily identify it so they put out for cheap. The gunsmith was one of the better ones around at the time so I think it must be a realitively obscure round, at least in the manuals in this country. This was before the Internet where the exchange of info was a bit more difficult than today. The r/s is a Belgian Cape Gun in 14 ga/11mm or there abouts. It is a blackpowder gun with damascus barrels in great shape. The stock has a forget-me-not design opposite the cheekpiece with the butt plate and trigger guard done in some type of horn. It is in perfect shape with shiny bores and nary a mark on the stock. The stars were aligned right for me to get that one, I was standing at the counter of a pawn shop when the owner brought it in. I picked it up 30 days later when it cleared NCIS.
Sounds like if you could fire that one.that you might get them stars out of alignment. It does sound like a fine peice of equipment though. 11 mm? Would that make it roughly .43 caliber? Just for giggles,or headaches(depending on how much you let it get to ya) it'd kinda interesting finding ammo for it. Is it still shootable with the Damascus barrels?
If you are wondering about the Cape Rifle, it is still perfectly shootable as it appears to be all original. The problem is determining the actual caliber of the rifle barrel and then finding appropriate ammo which would have been black powder. The gun appears to be from the mid 1890s by my guessing. I probably can shoot the shotgun barrel by using the 28 ga tubes I have for another 14 gauge sxs but won't for fear of breaking something. It is a beautiful gun and one of the stars of my humble collection.
There were a slew of 43 cal...11mm or 11.15mm rounds around about that time. Belgium made military rifles for Columbia in two 11mm versions, and Kreighoff had a 11.15 (43 cal) then, also.
I have a london boxlock that is very nearly restored in 450/400 3-1/4 inch. I got an incredible deal from a close friend and collector of double rifles. Just finishing the new stock right now and hopefully taking it to africa in oct. for dangerous game
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Post some photos on photobucket.com, post the address, and let us take a look... :shock: :shock:
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As soon as it's done I will post some pics if you want. When it's time someone will have to explain the procedure to me.
Find photobucket.com on your search engine. Then follow their instructions and enter several photos there. Write down the web address they show and post those here. We can open them just like web pages.