Google - The anti-gun search engine

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by luvtohunt.com, Mar 14, 2005.

  1. luvtohunt.com

    luvtohunt.com Guest

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    this really pissed me off. I have been using Google Adwords to promote my site for about 3 months now. I have been getting some good responses and customer leads. Today, Google suspended my account for inappropriate content. The inappropriate content directly refered to was firearms, shooting, and ammunition.

    What a bunch of liberal BS. Of course, if you have a nice porn site it is welcome. :evil: :evil: :evil:

    Here is part of the response I got from them:

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    Campaign: 'Campaign #1,' Ad Group: 'guns for sale'
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    AD TEXT:

    High Mountain Hunting Sup
    Quality gear at discount prices
    All brands of firearms and gear
    www.luvtohunt.com

    Ad Status: Suspended - Pending Revision
    Ad Issue(s): Unacceptable Content
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    SUGGESTIONS:
    -> Content: At this time, Google policy does not permit the
    advertisement of websites that contain "guns, firearms and ammunition".
    As noted in our advertising terms and conditions, we reserve the right
    to exercise editorial discretion when it comes to the advertising we
    accept on our site.




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    POLICY DEFINITIONS:

    Unacceptable Content: Google believes strongly in freedom of expression
    and therefore offers broad access to content across the web without
    censoring search results. Please note that the decisions we make
    concerning advertising in no way affect the search results we deliver.
    Please note that both your ad and keywords have been suspended at this
    time.
     
  2. pigeonhunter

    pigeonhunter Guest

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    I won't be using Google anymore.

    That really Sucks!
     

  3. wwb

    wwb Super Member

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    Do you have an e-mail address where we can all let them know that we will no longer use their search engine?

    Between here, ShotgunWorld, and a couple other firearms-related forums, maybe we can exert a little pressure.
     
  4. wwb

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  5. MarlandS

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    I didn't realize Google was allowing porn adwords.. Jay has fought with them for years about shotgunworld.
     
  6. luvtohunt.com

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    Actually, you would be surprised what they actually endorse for their "standards". I received a response from them today and then did a little research on sites they allow to advertise in AdWords. It almost made me sick :barf: Litterally, I want to take a shower now. Here is the firey response I sent back to them. I have deleted the cuss word which I used to search, but you get the idea.



    Robyn-

    I thank you for you response, however, I have been researching your Adword site to determine just what boundaries you consider to be "inappropriate content". Here are my findings. Obviously the term "F*CK" is not considered inappropriate. Neither is "KIDDIE PORN". Both of these searches resulted in AdWord sites soliciting unedited sexual photos, movies, and the like. May I remind you "Kiddie Porn" is federally banned in the Unites States of America. How can this be "appropriate content"?

    Let us cover some other words which bring up AdWord Sponsored advertising. "Young Sex" and "Teen Sex" also produce an uncountable number of AdWord Sponsor sites. The most shocking for me was "RAPE PORN" or "RAPED PORN" which solicits pictures of actual VIOLENT RAPES!!!! WHAT THE HELL??? How can this be consider "appropriate content"? These are sponsored sites by GOOGLE. I can now only assume GOOGLE endorses these practice simply by the actions taken against me and the firearms industry. By banning me for "inappropriate content" because I sell firearms and ammunition, you have legally defined the rest of your published AdWords as "appropriate".

    You make me sick.

    I am posting this one every website I can find and I look forward to your response.

    Kelsey Hilderbrand
    High Mountain Hunting Supply
    www.luvtohunt.com
     
  7. mapanggulo

    mapanggulo Well-Known Member

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  8. shootingworld

    shootingworld Owner/Admin Staff Member

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    Hey Kelsey,
    Yep, I've gone a couple of rounds with them myself. Even sent email responses to them that are very familiar to yours. I wish you better luck than I had.
    Regards,
    Jay
     
  9. luvtohunt.com

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    Jay -

    Following a suggestion, I may have found a hole in their arguement that can be legally binding. Big companies like Cabelas, Bass Pro Shops, Sportsmans Guide, and WalMart all are using AdWords and all advertise the same mechandise and services we offer in retail and discussion. I have requested an explanation as to why these corporations are allowed to advertise when we are not. Either they will eliminate them from their roster and take a pretty good financial hit or they can let us play too. I did drop the hint of a possible discrimination lawsuit pending an expanation just to get past the standard rhetoric we have been getting. I'll let you know what happens.

    Kelsey
     
  10. Papadoodles

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    Thanks for the information.

    Effective immediately I am removing Goggle from my list of search engines.

    Please keep ShootingWorld up to date on the status of your "discussion" with Goggle.

    pd

    ps, I just sent an email go Google - very politely - explaining to them that there a few MILLION gun owners who also own computers and they might NOT want to upset too many of us.

    It won't help - but I feel better!
     
  11. Drop-Shot

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    Hey Kelsey,I removed google from my addresses and stopped gmail and sent an email to the site wwb gave and told them why.If enough of us stick together we can fight this kind of crap,guns and hunting have been and will continue to be part of our lives and money spent.If they feel it in the pocket book mabe they will at least tolorate our life choices.Drop-Shot
     
  12. luvtohunt.com

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    Couldn't agree with you more! I have switched over to Yahoo for my adwords searches. They seem to me more receptive so far.


    Thanks, D-Shot!

    Kelsey
     
  13. luvtohunt.com

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    Well Guys-

    I recieved a little vindication. I did some searching and found other sites which were using Google AdWords. Both WalMart and Cabelas used them quite heavily. I pointed this out along with a request as to why my account had been terminated and theirs had not. I also suggested a discrimination lawsuit was pending based on our findings and their explanation.

    They were forced either to remove Cabelas, Walmart, and several other large sites which carried ammunition and firearms, or reinstate me. All of them were no longer using AdWords this morning. I hate to see them excluded from an advertising medium, however, I doubt they will notice the difference. No winners in this one, but the biggest loser is Google with Walmart and Cabelas taking their very large advertising bugets elsewhere.

    Now its on to PayPal. They decided to close my account today for the same reasons. The prejudice against firearms runs deep, but I will be damned if I am going to let them dictate to me what is right and wrong, especially when I have the Constitution on my side. God save the world from liberals and idiots.

    Thanks for the support guys! I appreciate it.

    Kelsey
    High Mountain Hunting Supply
    www.luvtohunt.com
     
  14. Drop-Shot

    Drop-Shot Super Member

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    How do we get in touch with paypal and let them know how we feel.Drop-Shot
     
  15. wired

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    It would seem Yahoo! is also anti-gun. I did a search on some shotgun reloading information, and the first thing I see is something about gun control keeping our schools safe, and after the description of the link it had Affiliate in parentheses. Could someone verify this? I'm running out of search engines.
     
  16. luvtohunt.com

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    I ma sure somewhere in Yahoo they have those setiments, however, they are allowing me to use thier system of adwords for advertising so they can'be as bad as google.
     
  17. wired

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    Either way, I decided to give Teoma a try, and I like it. I found myself a new search engine.
     
  18. Seymour Hiney

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    I hate to say it, but liberals control all media, including the internet. Exposing children to porn is fine by them, but try to teach kids firearm safety and the sh*t hits the fan. As far as I'm concerned, it's people like that that are ruining this country. We've almost got a case of Sodom and Gammorah, here.
     
  19. grimel

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    Yahoo isn't anti-gun. Yahoo lets it's members run about any type of group they choose (at no charge) unless someone reports it as inappropriate content. I'm on at least 3 gun related email lists on Yahoo. What ever has the most hits gets ranked 1 on the search engine.