But 8point the best burris won't have the eye relief the cheapest leupold has.When I look at the cabellas catalog and look for eye relief of a scope and even the most expensive scopes don't have the eye relief the leupolds have.Back in the 70's I used a tasco and had great success but I heard they were bought out and were made in china,so I haven't looked at tasco in years.My brother has a burris scope that cost him 480.00,A black diamond,he loves it,so burris is a good scope.The salesman I mentioned uses a burris and hunts in alaska at -40 with no problems,nikon,pentax,shepard ,there is alot of good choices.My brother dropped my rifle out of a tree stand and that broke the cross hairs,but under normal conditions the simmons is a good scope.The swift I got that fogged and exchanged,my brother-in-law used for years the replacement scope with no problems.I just have had such good luck with leupold that I will keep them,that don't mean I won't try another scope,I like the sightron also,but no scope(except the pistol scopes and scout scopes)have more eye relief,and when you have had stiches above your eye,you get to thinking about eye relief.Drop-Shot