M1 Carbines

Discussion in 'Military Style' started by Anonymous, Dec 9, 2004.

  1. Anonymous

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    I want to know all about M1 Carbines. Are they reliable? Are they hard to maintain? How expensive is the ammo? How common is the ammo? Could I hunt anything with it? If I were to buy one, should I buy any equipment or accessories to go with it? Please fill me in.
     
  2. uglydog

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    I've got an old WWII era one and it is a fine shooter. I'm not real familiar with them but there are differences between some of them. Some of the newer models are not overly reliable, I don't remember the brands but if you stick to GI recievers you should be fine. I don't find it to be hard to keep running but I am pretty handy with guns so that is not much of an endorsement. Ammo is realitively cheap as surplus ammo is still readily available. This is full metal jacketed rounds which are good for plinking but not recommended for hunting. It is not much of a hunting gun, it is a rather mild cartridge and it is illegal (or should be) in most areas for big game such as deer. I use it fairly often for coyotes with soft points great success.
     

  3. Logjam

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    There area a zillion manufactures of M-1 Carbines. You can get a book that'll explain them, or maybe the net will outline all of the makers.

    They made 5 millionn of them in WWII. They made more carbines than they made Garands. The WWII guns don't have a bayonette attachment, many were retrofitted during the Korean War.

    They can be pretty tempermental. Mine stove pipes from time to time, but they are easy to clear, not like an AR-15/M16 with their bolt override problem.

    Mine is pretty beat up, was a guard gun at San Quentin prison, so while it's got handling ware its bore is like new and they thing shoots very good indeed.

    Most military ammo that I've found is Korean stuff and it's good. You can buy after market ammo too that's cheap. Mine doesn't have the bayonette mount and that's as I like it, as it's like the WWII model.

    Old ones have a "L" shaped rear sight that had only two settings, you "flipped it over". But before the war was over they mounted an adjustable peep sight.

    The only stuff I have on mine is a sling, that mounts through an oiler in the butt and a magazine pouch that fits over the wrist of the stock. Many of the magazine punches that you see don't mount on the rifle, rather they are made for the belt. The rifle mounting ones are getting kind of expensive as they make the gun "neater".

    You can find after market folding stocks, but I don't know why you'd want one. If you find an original folding stock carbine you are talking about pretty big money.

    They carry and mount almost exactly like a Ruger 10/22. I'm sure the Bill Ruger was trying to duplicate the feel of the carbine when he made his little .22 auto.

    It's easy to get parts for them. Don't buy the Universal one that was made about 15/20 years ago. They might work okay, but they don't have the charactor of the old one. Also some Universal guns have a real ugly steal upper forarm.

    They used to be cheap, but no longer. I think minty ones go for $600 plus at gun shows, older, beat up ones cheaper though.

    Anyway, I like mine, they are easy to carry, fun to field strip, ammo is cheap and they are just neat little shooters.

    They are also part of history.

    BTW: An old Marine friend of mine told me that he shot a Jap Marine 13 times in the chest while fighting on Siapan. He said the guy keep coming. After that episode he tossed the carbine and picked up a Garand. They hit lots harder. The 30 Cal short round is about like a 3220.
     
  4. gwgdog66

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    Mine is a 1953 General Motors. It's a fun shooter. It's a good little varmit gun.
     
  5. Papadoodles

    Papadoodles Super Member

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    Always nice to see a TWO YEAR old posting brought back from the dead!!!!
     
  6. luv2safari

    luv2safari Moderator

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    And, with a welcomed new member...

    My little Universal is a surprisingly accurate rifle.
     
  7. gwgdog66

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    Papadoodles,

    Sorry about that. I didn't notice the date on the thread. In 2004 I was in Iraq, not much internet around where I was at. I was just catching up.
     
  8. Logjam

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    Re: re: M1 Carbines

    I just got a Sagenaw (sp?) gear model. It's like new. Has the Korean war additions; the bayonet lug and new rear sight.

    My new gun cost $20 about 20 years ago. Now it's worth, maybe a grand!

    M-1 carbines are no longer junk guns, far from it.

    Many used to say that they're underpowered, and they are indeed not as hard shooting as was the Garand, but to acurately evaluate the gun one must consider what the was competing against. The Soviet submachine gun was a .32 ACP and the German gun was a 9mm, so our gun was much more powerful than were the other submachine guns.
     
  9. Linda Vista Farm

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    I have a Universal that shoots great. Never malfunctions as long as I use original magazines. The after market 30 round mags are to unreliable. I use it around my farm for cats, coons, wild dogs, ect. I have even taken a couple of does with mine. I reload so I use soft point bullets and pushing about twice the speed and power of a 357 mag.

    Johnny