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Discussion in 'Rifle Opinions' started by pigeonhunter, Jan 20, 2005.
What would you choose for a 37 cal dangerous game rifle?
I choose the 378 wby mag it seems damn near everyone that lives in alaska and hunts carries a wby mag for a dangerous game rifle that says somethin to me plus i have heard that those 375 H&H's have a tendency to deflect off of the skulls of bears and other large game, not sure if its true or not but those wby mags usually are better for longer ranges plus I have a 300 win mag and a 338 win mag and i would like to add a wby mag to the mix im not sayin the 375 H&H isnt a good caliber I wanna own one of those too I just think the 378 is the best bet
If you can't kill it with a .375 H&H, you can't kill it with a .378 Wby. With a 300 grain bullet, the Wby has a couple hundred feet per second more at the muzzle - but they both have enough energy to knock over a locomotive.
If the shot is well-placed, either will do the job. If the shot is NOT well-placed, some bear is gonna have you for lunch before he dies - I don't care what kind of cannon you're shooting.
By the way, a .375 H&H deflecting off the skull of a bear sounds to me like a VERY tall tale. Plus, if a .375 H&H deflected, so would a .378 Wby - they aren't that much different. Also, based on my experience, the .338 Win Mag is by far the most common Alaskan resident caliber.... and the .30-'06 is second.
I don't want to sound like a grouchy old fart, but there are too many people who can't shoot, but think that an artillery piece will compensate for their lack of ability.
Why just one? Those are all nice rigs so I'd get all three :wink:
I suppose it could be a very tall tale i never took much stock in it but i figured i would bring it up since i have heard it from more than one place as for the 378 doing the same thing i figured maybe the extra velocity may help w/ that besides the weatherby calibers are better long range shooters many benchrest long range shooters use them maybe not the 378 cuz its a killer to shoot. as for the 338 win mag being the most common alaskan resident caliber i have to disagree ALOT of people up there use wby calibers even my uncle who doesnt hunt that lives up there has a 300 wby mag he takes w/ him to his cabin in the event of a dangerous situation. anyways I like the 375 H&H someday ill own one hopefully soon. I dont think the difference is significant enough to even worry about but i would go for the wby for the added confidence but thats just me and my .02.
The extra fps would increase the yaw on contact and if anything increase the chances. ANY non Cirrillo designed pin grabber bullet (and I wouldn't bet against them deflecting) will deflect given a shallow enough angle.
The 375 H&H hands down! There are few among us who could shoot the 378 Wby without flinching the shot right into the turf in front of them. Besides, NOBODY has any business shooting at dangerous game from more than about 100 yards, N-O-B-O-D-Y!! The 375 H&H is just fine at that range for anything but elephant; you need something much bigger than a .375 if you are being realistic about elephant hunting. The 375 does OK for cape buffalo, but just OK. I'll be using a 375 H&H for buffalo next spring, but with 350s or 380s in it, not 300s.
Now, as to the manufacturer and design:
The controlled round feed of the Winchester design is far better than a push feed for DG hunting. If things start to get out of hand, and thay do get out of hand about 1 out of 50 times, depending on what you've pzd off. :shock: a controled round feed is much better feeding while you are upside-down or sideways. :? It happens. :idea: The big problem with the Winjammers is just that, however. Winnie hasn't gotten her act together with their Safari Classic, I'm sorry to say. I've owned three...one in 416 Rem Mag and two in 375 H&H. One 375 and the 416 would have gotten me hurt eventualy...they wouldn't feed from a full magazine, or shells would come flying out all over the place. These were with the walnut and blue steel Safari Classics. The third rifle was a SS synthetic stock Win 70 Classic that was a wonderful rifle. So good in fact that I sold it to an African safari buddy like the rocket scientist I am... :roll: :roll:
Bottom line from experience...Win 70 SS in 375 H&H...good for anything, anywhere...
What happened to the 375 ultramag? I know,I know it's a little faster than the H & H, but just a little. BUT it sure feeds great without a magnum band.The 7mm & 300 ultramags in my harem ( that's what my honey calls my collection) ALLWAYS feed;2-700's and 2-70's.BTW~ I voted 70 classic- but if I had to I guess a double in 458 lott would be the only "Sure-Fire" choice for DG,IMHO. What'as wrong with a fifty? Jap zeros' sure seemed like DG at one time, but the 50bmg sure worked on them :wink:
Berettashotgun I saw a 375 ultra mag this past weekend at a gunshow here in Helena,the price was high but the fellow said he uses a 375 ultra mag for elk and moose.Like most folks he reloads and under loads the 375 ultra mag for elk and moose.The rifle was 900.00 and with nothing in my pockets all I could do is look.I also saw the CZ rifle in 375 H&H that was less and it's controlled round feed.I wish I had money for the rifle I really liked,a winchester 70 in 300 H&H for 650.00,I would most likely use that over the thunder boomers.Drop-Shot
The 9.3x62. It will do anything the fast steppers will do with less of everything including recoil.
I had to go with the mon. 70. I like them all but the 70 sticks out
Good evening 8point.I like my model 70,I haven't shot it yet,a friend did and creamed my chrony chronograf.It's dead,it has been nicked several times over the years and rapaired.The sky screen was too small and the newer ones are more expensive but have bigger sky screens.My model 70 is a push feed,but so is all my other bolt guns.I like the CZ rifles and they are controlled feed but this move and buying a house has killed my savings,so it will have to wait for awhile.Drop-Shot
:?: 9.3X62? Wouldn't ammo availability be an issue in North America? Just curious.
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