Yesterday, I picked up a Savage 99 take down rifle and am wondering how to actually take it down. I am not a total stranger to 99s as I have a half dozen but it is my first TD. A simple explanation is all hope it is, I'm not needing an in depth dissertation as I would probably not understand it. Thanks in advance.
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Uglydog, I never take anything apart, but I have seen this done and it didn't seem difficult. But I will let someone else give you guide lines. What I would like to know is what caliber do you have???? Also how does it shoot compared to your other 99's. I have had the hots for a .22 Hi_Power for a long time, but for some reason I have never seen one in a solid frame. They are all take downs. I have heard that the TD were not as accurate. How does yours shoot??? :?: :lol:I had an uncle who hunted with a takedown 99. He passed away in the early 60s, so it's been a good many years since I've seen it done, but I recall it being quite similar to the interrupted thread system used on the Winchester M97 and M12 shotguns.
If I recall correctly, he pulled down and/or rotated the little release catch, and slid the forearm forward about an inch, then rotated the barrel & forearm about 90 degrees and pulled them out of the receiver.
I never got the opportunity to try it myself, and never really paid very close attention while he did it, as I was generally spit-shining my nearly new Marlin .30-30 at the time.
If I recall correctly, he pulled down and/or rotated the little release catch, and slid the forearm forward about an inch, then rotated the barrel & forearm about 90 degrees and pulled them out of the receiver.
I never got the opportunity to try it myself, and never really paid very close attention while he did it, as I was generally spit-shining my nearly new Marlin .30-30 at the time.
I thought it was the interrupted thread design but had read somewheres that it was a bit different and recalled it was a little involved. I decided to just see what happened when I took the fore end off and found it was a very simple procedure. Once the fore end was removed, all that was left was to unscrew the barrel from the receiver. It was quick and simple so I'm thinking something is wrong.
This 99 is in 22 High Power and is a first year manufacture gun. Unfortunately it has been refinished and drilled for scope mounts but other than that it appears to have been shot very little and is certainly tight. It has an old Kollengren (or whatever, I can't recall the spelling) in 4x, I believe. I kind of have another 22 HP as my dad has his father's solid frame 99 which I shoot on occasion. I have not shot the gun yet, I hope to do so in the next couple of days. As I didn't have any 22 HP ammo on hand, I had to buy a couple of boxes of Norma brand from a local store. They gave me a "good deal" on it at "only" $38 a box. I can't wait to get off an order for Sellier & Bellot as theirs is only a bit over $20 the last I looked.
This 99 is in 22 High Power and is a first year manufacture gun. Unfortunately it has been refinished and drilled for scope mounts but other than that it appears to have been shot very little and is certainly tight. It has an old Kollengren (or whatever, I can't recall the spelling) in 4x, I believe. I kind of have another 22 HP as my dad has his father's solid frame 99 which I shoot on occasion. I have not shot the gun yet, I hope to do so in the next couple of days. As I didn't have any 22 HP ammo on hand, I had to buy a couple of boxes of Norma brand from a local store. They gave me a "good deal" on it at "only" $38 a box. I can't wait to get off an order for Sellier & Bellot as theirs is only a bit over $20 the last I looked.
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HAVE THE HEADSPACE CHECKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
This is VERY important with the 99 takedown guns...I can't stress this enough. :idea:
This is VERY important with the 99 takedown guns...I can't stress this enough. :idea:
L2s,
Thanks for that order, it is something I almost forgot until I mentioned it to my reloading supply source looking for dies and components. Fortunately, he has a set of headspace gauges and the gun ran the "Go" and "No Go" gauges properly. I have not had the opportunity to shoot the gun yet, literally moments from walking out the cabin door to go to the local range with friends I received a call that my father had passed away suddenly. Needless to say things have been rather hectic since and it will probably be a little bit before I get out again. Again, thanks for the advice and I'll post on how well all goes when I get the chance.
Thanks for that order, it is something I almost forgot until I mentioned it to my reloading supply source looking for dies and components. Fortunately, he has a set of headspace gauges and the gun ran the "Go" and "No Go" gauges properly. I have not had the opportunity to shoot the gun yet, literally moments from walking out the cabin door to go to the local range with friends I received a call that my father had passed away suddenly. Needless to say things have been rather hectic since and it will probably be a little bit before I get out again. Again, thanks for the advice and I'll post on how well all goes when I get the chance.
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Uglydog, I am very sorry to hear about your father's passing. You and your family have my sympathy.
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UD,
Man, sorry to hear about the loss of your Dad! Been there done that and it ain't easy.
Prayers sent out for you and your family.
HWD
Man, sorry to hear about the loss of your Dad! Been there done that and it ain't easy.
Prayers sent out for you and your family.
HWD
Thanks all for your thoughts and prayers. Dad's burial was this afternoon and we are now just sitting back and taking a break for the moment. My wife and mom are taking a walk and I'm just taking a moment to get back to "normal" for a bit. It has been maybe 20 years since I had much contact with the town my folks lived in and I was overwhelmed by the number of people I used to know that showed up. I even had a couple of old small time miscreants that I had arrested a time or two show up and pay their respects. I guess its true you can never leave a small town and I'll have to make a concerted effort to return the honors others bestowed onto me and my family.
Thaks for putting up with the babble, I just needed an outlet for a moment and I'll let you all be. Thanks again.
Thaks for putting up with the babble, I just needed an outlet for a moment and I'll let you all be. Thanks again.
Mr. Ugly,
Headspace !! The TDs are notorious for HS problems Also If the ballel is not reseated with the greatest exactitude you wont' be able to hit a bull broadside. Persnikity little buggers they are. If the headspace is good and there are no other issues, dont' take it apart.
Headspace !! The TDs are notorious for HS problems Also If the ballel is not reseated with the greatest exactitude you wont' be able to hit a bull broadside. Persnikity little buggers they are. If the headspace is good and there are no other issues, dont' take it apart.
Its important that the ACTION BE OPEN when taking down a 99.
If it isnt, you will bend things trying ti remove the barrel.
Unlatch the forearm from the barrel. Inside the barrel channel of the forearm there is a round metal piece with a square cut out.
Place this over the hook on the barrel and unscrew the barrel.
careful, if the barrel is truly stuck was made permanent by some means in the past you can crack your forearm trying to turn the barrel.
If it isnt, you will bend things trying ti remove the barrel.
Unlatch the forearm from the barrel. Inside the barrel channel of the forearm there is a round metal piece with a square cut out.
Place this over the hook on the barrel and unscrew the barrel.
careful, if the barrel is truly stuck was made permanent by some means in the past you can crack your forearm trying to turn the barrel.
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This might be a stupid question, but I just inherited a model 99 take down in .250-3000 circa 1915. The barrel would appear to be stuck in the receiver and will not turn. which direction should it turn to unscrew? Is it a left hand thread or a right hand thread? The threads appear to be stub acme, or some variation on that thread form. I know these should not be broken down routinely because they can get loose and cause headspace problems, but I would like to disassemble it as much as possible for a thorough cleaning and restoration which it has not received in at least 30 years. I fear that there may be corrosion in the threads that I cannot see. I want to make sure that if I do put more than a little torque on it that I'm not simply tightening it even more. I know to lock the receiver in a vise and to have the action open, the cheek wood on the stock is already split where my brother attempted to disassemble it years ago without doing so and it will need new furniture which is unfortunate. Can anyone advise how to free the frozen threads without damaging anything? I'm thinking KROIL squirted into the threads followed by light tapping around the circumference of the receiver boss with a brass hammer might free things up. Ideas?
Mine rotate counterclockwise as I recall. I don't have one on hand at the moment to verify but that is what I believe. Add a bit of penetration oil to the threads and let it sit for a while, that should help. I never had to put the action in a vise, that I suspect would allow one to exert enough force to cause problems. As mentioned, make sure the action is open before one attempts to remove the barrel.
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