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I think they are very under rated by a lot of people.
I havn't tried the new accu-trigger.I did have a trigger job done on my older Savage 110/30-06.
I have shot 80yd groups that you could cover with a quarter from the bed of my truck.Not a very stable bench.
Just a thought to get this forum going. :wink:
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i think they are very under rated rifles too ive never owned one but have shot them and i like them they are very accurate my next rifle is gonna be either a ruger or savage and those are the 2 manufacturers i usually look at first before i buy a rifle

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Hey MarkV--

I started a thread in "rifle talk" about buying a new rifle; possibly I should have put it here. I'm looking very seriously at Ruger, although I'm deciding between 7mm-08 and a .270. Savage is also a possiblilty if I decide to go with a synthetic stock. The wood stocks on the Savage guns are just a bit too icky for me, but I think the innards are just as good if not better than the other rifles, so I'd buy a synthetic one. If I go to 7mm-08 it might be a Ruger M77 MKII compact. Do you have any experience with / opinions of the Ruger compact models? I've been geeting some great advice on guns, calibers, and scopes in the other thread from Gordon Setter, Uglydog, and others.

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jeff23 i have a ruger model 77 in 220 swift and another in 300 win mag and i love them both they are awesome guns. i read ur thread about buying a new rifle and u talked about one shot kills which i completely agree w/ and i think u may want to take a look at the ruger #1 It is an awesome gun and i cant say enough about it i have one in 338 it is incredibly accurate on par w/ a savage. but the #1 is a kinda pricey u r right about the savage stocks savage rifles are very utilitarian in looks but they more than make up for that in accuracy and function and u may want to look at a savage w/ a laminated stock they look nicer and u dont have to worry about warpage and changes in the stock w/ a laminated stock. either way u cant go wrong w/ a ruger or a savage let us know what u end up w/ and personally i would go w/ the 7mm-08 for deer but im not a big fan of the 270 but i dont think ruger or savage offers anything in 7mm-08 personally i would go for a .308 its available in both savage and ruger and it seems to be the ultimate deer caliber there are so many options for it and its readily available almost everywhere also i forgot to mention u may want to check out a tikka t3 i have heard rave reviews about them but i have no first hand experience. just a thought happy hunting

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I apologize i neglected to mention that my 77's are the standard models and not the compact model and ruger does offer a 7mm-08 i was mistaken.I also made reference to one shot kills which i read in another thread but i do think that all u should need is one shot so give the #1 a chance and i would still take a hard look at the 308

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Thanks MarkIV :) Interesting you should mention ammo availability. After reading the advice I've gotten so far, I've checked and there are at least three places nearby that carry 7mm-08 ammo (one of the few advantages to living in the Northeast: lots of stuff to buy :) )

I definitely plan to keep the boards posted--this is actually my second time buying a brand new gun in the last few months--a world record for me. :) I'm going to shop around carefully!

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Hi there. Thought I'd add my comments on Savage rifles.

Well, I like mine. Seems well built and sturdy. Its a older 110 synthetic stock package model, with the bushnell scope in 30-06. Not the accu-trigger model.
Only three problems,
1. the gun was too light. Added some lead shot in the stock.
2. trigger was rough and felt like grinding metal. Took it to Ahlmans gun shop for a "trigger job". the guy at the counter picked it up, dry fired it, and said, "yes, its rough, and its got alot of trigger creep too." . ok. fixed for about $40 and I cant believe how smooth and crisp it is now. Now I just have to plug there site-- http://www.ahlmans.com
3. Bushnell scope reticle broke! NOT Savages fault, and in fact still fires to the point of aim !

That said, I like the rifle even more since my uncle,at 100 yds, with 5 shots, put 3 shots touching, with one of those on the bullseye X. He even called that one. Of the other two, one in the bullseye, and one in the 8 ring. All that with a broken scope.
The gun shoots better than I can. Whats not to like... Oh well, I beat my uncle in trapshooting :)

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While Savage rifles admittedly lack snob appeal, they do the job and allow me to spend time at the range rather than wasting many months scrimping and saving to get something with better aesthetics. I only own 3 Savage rifles and like all of them. The only thing that keeps me from adding to the collection is funding. Only complaint is that on one of the new rifles I bought the trigger is still a bit rough and seems heavy even after having a smith work on it. Could be that it needs some more shooting to break it in. The 7mm-08 round it is chambered in is great even in a light rifle.

The new Accutrigger, which I understand is on all models now, is absolutely superb on my 12FV. I hesitated since I thought the aesthetics of the accutrigger were not exactly to my lacking, then again I said that about synthetics stocks and I only have 3 firearms now with a syn stock.
 
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Re: re: Savage Rifles,

markIVbigblock said:
i think they are very under rated rifles too ive never owned one but have shot them and i like them they are very accurate my next rifle is gonna be either a ruger or savage and those are the 2 manufacturers i usually look at first before i buy a rifle

Aaron
Hard to beat the Savage rifles for value and performance-have both in .308 tactical models. My preference is the Ruger due to the rugged integral scope mounts......well, yeah, it's a little prettier too. :D
 
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I'm not a Savage fan! Lot'sa reasons Why I don't have any. Won't go into that though.
An old gun dealer once told me that a Savage will do anything but sell! That's what he didn't like about them!

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Re: re: Savage Rifles,

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I'm not a Savage fan! Lot'sa reasons Why I don't have any. Won't go into that though.
An old gun dealer once told me that a Savage will do anything but sell! That's what he didn't like about them!

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I wouldn't buy from that gun dealer then. while i do not own a savage at this moment, i have been advised by more than a few actual gunsmiths that the savage is an incredible buy. i buy for accuracy first and looks second.
i do like the choice of 7mm 08 but i'm a big fan of the .270 as well. you wont go wrong with either choice unless you want to hunt something a little bigger than whitetail, then i would lean towards the .270 if i had to pick between the two. if you reload and buy the .270 you could down load some .270 rounds to have the same soft kick as the 7mm08 but then again the .270 is not bad in my book the way it is.
 
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I guess I see no reason to hold it against him for telling the truth. He said the Savage will do everything but sell! If you like'm good for you! Me, I'll spend my money on a rifle that will shoot just as well or better, feels and looks better too. I'm just funny that way!
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Interesting comment by the "seasoned" gun dealer mentioned above but per chance were you able to note at what cost he was listing them at? Some of the shops I stopped in were quoting MSRP while others offered same package at lower prices, same rifle/same scope, may help to explain why one did not sell and the other did.
 

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Seems to me Savage got the bad reputation from the older guns they made.That was then and this is now.I keep hearing good things about the new Savages instead of complaints.Better accuracy and now a better trigger.

A word about the Ruger compacts.Handle one before you drop the money on it.I wanted one until I put it to my shoulder.When people say the compact is short,they are not kidding!
 

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While we are talkin about the compact rugers, I have a question. I have always been a ruger fan, in fact I own more rugers than any other brand combined. Any how, a friend of mine went out and bought a compact M77 chambered in 7mm-08, had the trigger worked and a nice fancy Nikkon scope mounted on it. I am no super marksman, nor am I a rookie, but neither he or I can get this rifle to group worth a crap at 100 yds. We are shooting off of sandbags and allowing barrel to cool between shots, but it will not put 2 shots consistently closer than 4-6 inches of each other. I would think that a rifle and caliber like that would drive tacks at 100 yds. We dont know what else to do. Could it just be a bad gun? Sorry to ramble but we are kinda frustrated with this rifle.
 

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Is a bit off topic on the compact Ruger but I can toss a few basic things out. You may want to repost in one of the other sections where it might get some more exposure.

You may have already tried it but just in case, did you experiment with some different loads? Double check the mounts, if they are loose, might as well toss the scope and shoot with your eyes closed. Stock can shift as well giving pressure points on the barrel, free floating would be a solution, one of the reasons wny synthetic is popular.

Hope this helps. Nothing more frustrating than a rifle that won't shoot decent groups.
 
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check the action screws, make sure they are tight. it sounds silly but once in a while a gun can get pass the inspector that is not properly tighten. if that fails send it back to ruger they have a first rate customer service, and if the gun wont shoot any better than what you have described i'll will be shocked if they don't send you a new one.
 
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