I used to use them 8point when I used to hunt in thickets,on my marlin 30/30,but since I left the south I took off the scope all together and use it for close up timber hunting just with iron sights.In timber 50 yards is a long shot,iron sights work fine for that for me.I never had good sucess with them,I think it was because the point of aim was too high. Drop-Shot
Not only is the point of impact too high,these things are not very stable. They twist under recoil and don't usually hold zero like standard mounts do. If you've got to hold your head up off of the stock while shooting you're not going to see the same sight picture each shot. I had one guy come to our range on a public site-in day who had these on a 30-06. His gun or him, was shooting all over the place at 50 yds. With iron sights it was fine. A gunsmith,who shows up for technical advice and to fix broke guns that some guy pulled out of the closet and hasn't shot in who knows how many years, asked if he could replace the mounts and rings to check something. Of course the shooter,who was getting pretty disgusted,agreed. After replacing ,this rifle was shooting moa at 100 yds. The shooter happily paid the fee for the work and parts.The gunsmith threw the old mounts in the trash.
I had one guy,when asked why he had these mounts on a 243,tell us that he used the scope to look through only then used the sites to shoot. Makes you glad that you hunt on Private Land and don't have to be around that guy!!!!
HWD I hunt public land and that is a problem.I don't how many but there is a large percentage of folks that need to attend a standard hunting and shooting course.I've had bullets fly over my head on a Public refuge in south louisianna,I yelled and the young man stopped and ran the other way,what if I had been hit?The person was gone and I would have had to get myself to some help.This is a self ruled sport,we have to be responsible hunters and use the best equiptment we can reasonably afford,and use them in a responsible way.Drop-Shot
I only have them on my BLR .270. They are low profile and my lower cheek is still resting on the stock.When I was testing out my tweeked handloads I was shooting 3/4 groups at 100 yards. I know they would have been closer if I had low Mounts but that is good .
8point that sounds like you might have a problem with that BLR,you might as well send it to me so you know,I could check it out for a year or two,I wouldn't mind and I don't have a 270 any more so I'll help you out and check it out for a few years.Ive heard of folks that loved the see through mounts and I heard the oppisite,if your getting that good of groups,I'd say leave it alone!I know of 1500.00 guns that won't shoot that good,enjoy.Drop-Shot
i put them on my remington 522 viper, the 3-9x40 scope sat too low and wouldnt clear the rear iron sight. so I put the see through scope rings on and I love em, and they fit the gun and me just perfect. I really like the use of iron sight too, I can make close shots with the iron sights, and longer shots with the scope.