while visiting a gun show in chahalis Wa,I talked to 2 guys that had a table set up and wanted members.I think to join was 135.00 to start and that got you a hat and a jacket with your name on it.These guys shoot all year long at 500-600 yards.You have to make at least 1 shoot per month and turn in all of your targets,If after all summer you hit 99% in kill zone,you are invited to hunt private property.A miss is looked down upon and if you have 3 misses in a season you are outuntill you get back to the range(private)and turn in 99% at 500 yards.This is an elite core of folks that pratcice and have guns that can kill at that range and all I talked to have multiple kills at 500 yards and beyond.I didn't join,not for the money,but I don't want the responsibility of wounding an animal or prolonging agony and pain.I know alot about pain ,most on this site could out shoot me,but I almost never miss cause I know my limits,I'm proud to hear from honest sportsman that extend their limits to distances beyond others by practicing all year.Good hunting guys.Drop-Shot