when you want to get rid of that '76 vintage ruger let me know, i'll buy it. the new rugers all have the lawyer triggers on them and they suck(trigger not whole gun). either have them worked by a gun smith or buy a after market trigger to drop into them. i will be having mine done very soon, the older ones where adjustable and came from the factory with proper setting usualy (as wwb can testify) right where you would want it.wwb said:I don't know what the new ones are like, but my 1976 vintage M77 has no creep, about .010" overtravel, and breaks cleanly at 3-1/2 lb. The overtravel is adjustable, and I could try to get to zero, but .010" is livable. And it's a factory trigger; never tweaked at all.